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you're in the paracast

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the gold standard of paranormal radio

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and now

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i have to tell you that after getting

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last week's psychic reading

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from cynthia hart button i don't think

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i've given it a lot of thought

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because i've had readings before i think

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some were better than others but i've

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only had one reading of anything in my

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entire life

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where i thought maybe something was

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accurate did i ever mention this on the

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show

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yeah you did

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this is the one

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years ago if our listeners haven't heard

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where i was involved in a business

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venture wasn't working looking to start

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a new life my first marriage had broken

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up

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so i visited a friend

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in philadelphia

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who's a pagan

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and she

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took out her tarot cards

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she takes out her tarot cards and

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there's one that signifies you're plying

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your trade

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i'm not much on tarot cards but that's

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what she pointed to me

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and i developed a sort of profession

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while working in this business

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i became a typesetter and part of the

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reason for that is i was editing a

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magazine

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and i wanted to look professional and

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found out their local school system had

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a typesetting machine so i faked my way

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into it and i taught myself so

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armed with that i had to think what to

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do next but before that even happened

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once she finished her reading

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i promptly became exhausted and fell

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asleep for two hours did i mention that

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chris

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using my energy to come up with her

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reading

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anyway i

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got up went home

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a few months later i had moved to the

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vicinity of new york city actually in

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new jersey a quick commute

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i started getting gigs in the

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typesetting business

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and i supported myself that way for

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nearly 20 years

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somewhere along the line of course

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apple came out with a macintosh computer

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developed desktop publishing and

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ultimately destroyed the typesetting

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profession so i had to learn how to do

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desktop publishing but that's the only

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reading

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that sort of at least guided me to doing

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something valuable and something that

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was productive

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the other couple of readings i've had

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have all been just very general or

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completely inaccurate or in the case of

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cynthia hart's button it seemed to look

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backwards rather than forwards

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and i explained that on the after the

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power cast podcast

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and i as soon as not prefer not to

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mention it again but she was a nice lady

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and she believes in good things

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and saving our environment and saving

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endangered species is a good thing has

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she ever done a psychic reading for you

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chris

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no no in fact i kind of forgot that she

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professed to have those kinds of

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abilities

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again i really don't know cynthia that

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well um

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she's so busy i really haven't had the

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the chance to to spend a lot of quality

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time with her because she's she's just a

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mad woman on the move um her husband

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charles uh is a bass player who i've

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i've been involved in a number of

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projects with and and i know charles

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much much better than cynthia

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but the reason why i even uh

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wanted to suggest her uh being a guest

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on the show is

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because of her work with um the white

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buffalo um and also her work with native

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americans and of course with the uh

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the standing rock

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controversy and

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i think a little heightened awareness in

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this country of native american rights

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kind of the custodial ship i think of

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the environment

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goes back you know into pre-history and

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and i thought that this would be a good

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opportunity to um to kind of at least

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broach those kinds of subjects on the

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show um

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you know again i'm

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i'm pretty agnostic when it comes to uh

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to you know living here in sedona you

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know psychics are a dime a dozen and i

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really don't pay much attention to that

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sort of thing but

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but um i do take exception with some of

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our foreign posters who think i'm uh

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i've lost my rocker to have someone like

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if this was after the paracast i tell

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you where to go stick it but

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um i really do feel that there's

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room

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on the show to talk about prophecy to

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talk about native american rights to

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talk about the environment

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to bring

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with uh

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with what many native peoples think is

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the end of this particular

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incarnation of humanity

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and i i do feel that there's something

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to that

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of course i don't buy into any of it uh

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really i don't believe anything uh when

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it comes to this but

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i do kind of have a sense that we are

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getting to the to the end of an epoch

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here uh

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things are getting um

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uh curiouser and curiouser and a lot

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more uh interesting than

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than i care to really um

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buy into but

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you know i do think it's uh it's

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important for the paracast to uh to

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broach these subjects from time to time

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and the plight of native americans of

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course is something the mainstream media

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never really covers by the way and i was

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looking at the stats here and

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the u.s population of american indians

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and alaska natives total 6.6 million

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including those who are just part native

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american

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about two percent of the total

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population but i think

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they deserve some attention other than

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maybe being treated as an afterthought

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on a tv show or something i know there's

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a one tv procedural on netflix called

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longmire

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which is based on mystery novels about a

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wyoming sheriff and native americans are

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very very strongly represented they're

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of the plotting i don't know about the

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people who actually play the roles yeah

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yeah they are the neighbor except for

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lou diamond phillips he's

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fraction like one-eighth native american

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lou diamond phillips of course he was in

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the movie la bama many years ago and has

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become a

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fairly busy working character actor but

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yeah if you look up his bio he's one

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eighth native american okay well i guess

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by the way it's a pretty decent show

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it's not a kids show it's something that

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regular cable tv and i guess they didn't

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it could be a pretty gritty show but i

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really like it yeah it's been on five

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yeah uh-huh

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and the guy who plays the sheriff

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longmire is actually an australian actor

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who has the same name

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an american actor who's no longer with

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us robert taylor

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australian yes he is

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well you can't tell anymore because you

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have these people from australia new

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uk and they come here

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and you don't know that they're not

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but he's a really good actor and the

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show has a lot of grit to it

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you know it's it's not light and airy

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graham green plays a uh a bad guy graham

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green course has always played

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could you know sort of whimsical sort of

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funny native american characters of

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his character and uh dances with wolves

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a pretty nasty uh casino indian casino

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um guy and

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counties who

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are in close proximity to native

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american reservations the kind of legal

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problems that you have

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uh doing criminal investigations chasing

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i've seen all the shows i i actually

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it's one of the few serial shows that

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and the show is a mixture of serialized

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drama and

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resolving

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and as he says i think it's a really

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good show i really enjoy it

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my wife was slow to get used to it but

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has become accustomed to the fact that

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it's just really well done in terms of

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plotting it's based on a series of

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novels by craig johnson

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who is someone who lives in wyoming in a

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town of 15 people imagine that in any

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case on this episode we're not talking

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about tv procedurals native americans or

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anything like that we're going to talk

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about a movement called anonymous

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uprising

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to

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fund an attempt at first contact

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they're trying to raise funds a gofundme

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to resolve it

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right now i'm at mixed

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feelings about what this is going to

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lead to

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but we're going to figure it out

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anonymous uprising first contact with

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so we're joined on the power cast this

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week by sean korea

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and he is the driving force

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behind anonymous uprising which is the

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movement towards first contact now sean

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before we go on

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i wanted to ask you first of all

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about your background kind of look at

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your path

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here

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what sort of businesses have you been in

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and what led you to the crazy ufo field

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sure

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so you know i started uh my combat

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training actually when i was five years

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old my uh my mother was a diplomat my

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father was in the expo business and

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um i my instructor was actually in

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charge of the uh

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secret security force in korea and you

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know so i'd be i was been a martial

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artist for 15 20 years and an athlete

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and that drew the attention of

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recruiters and

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folks in the national security uh

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business

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and i uh

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actually as i was going through college

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i

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focused on

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developing my skills and various

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computer sciences and engineering and so

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i was intrigued in working in national

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security but i wanted to

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take a shot at building a career in the

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information technology arena so i did

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that and i've had a number of

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entrepreneurial endeavors in that field

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in the areas of online training and the

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areas of cyber defense

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and so i've had a

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business career that parallel to my

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career and work in the national security

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field mostly for the department of

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defense cyber security center the dc3

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i've also been a technical liaison for

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darpa and iarpa which is

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your audience may or may not know darpa

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looks for

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new technology for

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military applications irpa is darpa's

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counterpart in the intelligence

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community so my i've spent my life

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developing new technologies to help our

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national defense and

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funded a lot of those endeavors through

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commercial my commercial exploits and

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taking highly disruptive technologies to

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market some of the neat technologies you

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see on the market today like hbo go with

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ours bill me later we actually worked

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very closely with tesla fisker

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automotive and and the alternative

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energy space on the commercial side so

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that's kind of i've been in this area a

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long time now through that process i've

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been exposed to a number of the

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uh projects and had uh you know been

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exposed to a lot of the technologies

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that that have been leveraged and

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reverse engineered for

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initially military applications but they

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do eventually uh they're eventually made

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available to private companies so they

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can you know be available for public

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consumption so that's kind of my my

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background now what would move me

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towards this particular subject matter

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is

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i started to notice there was uh the

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public interest here was just growing

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exponentially it used to be you know

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very segmented had a pretty you know

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specific demographic of the people that

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followed this stuff

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and i i started to see with a lot of

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television shows on television like the

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history channel and so forth and so on

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and

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that got me interested in wanting to

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reach out and

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help

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a lot of the ufologists and subject

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matter experts out there so

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i reached out i've worked with some

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some of the most

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famous

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ufologists and

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what i learned was i i really got into

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the material i got a really good idea

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for

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you know what was being circulated the

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narratives conspiracy theories and so

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forth and so on and just comparing that

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what was on the public domain to my own

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experiences

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and initially i got involved trying to

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help

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provide some expertise a lot of the ufo

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you know ufologists don't necessarily

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come from the same background and don't

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understand the intricacies they're

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really just talking to people trying to

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cultivate witnesses and so forth and so

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on so i tried to bring some of that

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expertise to bear to try to help make

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more progress now

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and what i learned was

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most of the ufologists examine cases

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interview witnesses

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from instances in the past i there was

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zero

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primary research being done

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and i understand why you know it's

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difficult to do this work

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without funding and to seek funding you

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need to have a narrative that draws the

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public interest so you can sell videos

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and tickets to speeches and all that

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kind of stuff but in large part what i

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found is the interests and objectives of

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most of these ufologists wasn't

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necessarily to move the ball forward was

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to just

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arouse the public interest which is is a

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good thing i mean that that that

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certainly helps and that that's that's a

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great idea but it's not really helping

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to move this forward and

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so that's kind of how the idea started

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so i i took a bunch of my

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colleagues worked with my colleagues we

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got together a lot of them have

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contributed to a lot of these ufologists

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so

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um most of the information that's

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available on the public domain that's

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true that's factual usually comes from

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someone like myself or my colleagues

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who work in this field

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folks like us that kind of guide

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this

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guide the ufologists along in terms of

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how you know what's what unfortunately a

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lot of the

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the facts that are available are not as

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appealing as the narrative that's

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created by this by the ufologist to try

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to explain these things so before we go

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on before we go on sean i wanted to ask

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you specifically you mentioned working

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with certain ufologists which ones can

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you name a few let's kind of set it on

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the table here

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sure um

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i have one that i worked with i worked

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with dr steven greer who is

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the

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founder of

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the disclosure project yeah we know who

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he is and i can understand after working

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with him you might be

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discouraged go on please

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right so you know like i said i i don't

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really have you know i don't want to say

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anything negative about anybody but you

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know

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clearly

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they're doing some public service by

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arousing the interest of the public but

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i'm just personally not interested in in

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selling books and videos and and

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t-shirts and stuff worshipping

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personalities

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right it just i just it turns out

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yeah

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one of one of the things that i noticed

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you know what he does or whatever what

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i've observed and is what

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you know when you go to hawaii you can

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pay a tour guide uh in the springtime

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we'll take you out and so that you can

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take pictures of and see humpback whales

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in person it's a great thing people

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enjoy it it's a life-changing experience

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after the tour they go home you know

571
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they have a great story to tell their

572
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family that's very much what i observed

573
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with a lot of the ce5 contact

574
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expeditions

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um people were going out and you know

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they observe

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an extraterrestrial orb will appear in

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the sky maybe 15-20 minutes

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it's exciting i get it you know you kind

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of that curiosity and then when it's

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satisfied and you recognize that this is

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real uh it's a very exciting experience

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but that's really where it stops so if

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he's more of a tour guide in my view

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based on the work he's doing than

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he's the unelected uh humankind's

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unelected ambassador to the universe i

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mean how dare you

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let's break here and then we'll continue

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that discussion because that raises a

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lot of interesting possibilities dr

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stephen greer he was on the power cast

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twice in the early years and i should

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say this on the second occasion sound to

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me like he was going to just

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go off on us

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because he was really getting very upset

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possibly we'll get into that in a moment

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we've got the sean korea

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anonymous uprising is his

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endeavor we're to come with gene and

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in to the paracast let me tell you what

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you're going to hear stuff here that you

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probably won't hear anywhere else hear

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that george snorri

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anonymous uprising let me tell you we've

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plus tot the powercast.com sean korea

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is responsible for anonymous uprising

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and we were talking about the fact that

748
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he

749
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example

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of a so-called ufologist

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really really in it for himself

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00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:34,720
and not really advancing ufo research

753
00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:37,600
you've got the a number one numero uno

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example there

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and we have been

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after him in terms of criticizing what

757
00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:45,440
he does for a long time have you worked

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with anyone else other than dr greer

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um i have and i've indirectly provided

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and validated um

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you know findings docky done document

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review

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validated um video content

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or authenticated video content

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in particular an example there was a

766
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video that that went viral not too long

767
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ago it was it was a can it was a

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video shot from

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the department of homeland security and

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this was the first government uh video

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that had been released in in a number of

772
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years at least to my

773
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recollection and so

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we were

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responsible for authenticating that

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video

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through our connections at the

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department of homeland security

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so we've done stuff like that

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also we've tried to organize

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some collaboration on some particular

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subjects so there's a lot of groups

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new age groups out there in particular

784
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that like to get some perspective and of

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course a lot most people are pushing for

786
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some cooperation and collaboration

787
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amongst the different ufologists so

788
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we've tried to facilitate that for a

789
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number of them so

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uh folks like linda mutton howe stephen

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bassett

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nick pulp

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are just a few

794
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okay when it comes to linda moulton howe

795
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and stephen bassett okay these are not

796
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always the best examples if you offer

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research chris

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both gene and i have been involved in

799
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this field for decades

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and um i've for instance i've known

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linda 20

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almost 25 years stephen greer

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longer

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in fact then to help train me to be a

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field investigator

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i have a tremendous tremendous amount of

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respect for for her body of work up

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until about maybe 10 years ago

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uh and then she went off on you know the

810
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cult of personality deep end

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that um

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everybody that you mentioned so far uh

813
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pretty much

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stephen bassett you know

815
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i mean who is the guy he has no

816
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personal history he came out of nowhere

817
00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:54,799
all of a sudden is uh you know the

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disclosure

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expert

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when uh both

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you and i sean know that the us

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government's

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role in our culture is control and

824
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that's what governments are about

825
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the government does not control the ufo

826
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:11,600
subject so they will never admit that

827
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:13,440
and disclose anything

828
00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:14,720
um

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a vast majority of the information is

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probably held in the private sector um

831
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and

832
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just to interject the thought here what

833
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i i've literally spoken to thousands of

834
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people because i try to keep myself

835
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available

836
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to anybody who has any questions you

837
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:32,399
know as best as i can obviously i'm just

838
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one person but

839
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um when people ask questions and are

840
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curious how if they start getting

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interested in the subject matter how can

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they you know any advice i could give

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them to kind of navigate through this

844
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and i've given him some some pretty

845
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straightforward advice as it relates to

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this number one

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you know

848
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a ufologist can't really be successful

849
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:54,399
or make a name for themselves without

850
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creating a narrative that's unique to

851
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them to differentiate themselves from

852
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the other guy and ultimately that's how

853
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they hope to

854
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become popular and and you know sell

855
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their

856
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um so what i what i tell people is

857
00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:13,600
anything you find that you know uh

858
00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:15,840
proposes to explain

859
00:32:20,070 --> 00:32:18,080
the why and the how

860
00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:20,080
is probably not true

861
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:22,559
so when people talk about the alien

862
00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:25,360
agenda whether we're you know

863
00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:27,039
i mean i've heard a number of different

864
00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:28,880
versions of this and

865
00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:31,919
nothing none of it i've seen any

866
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:33,440
evidence to support it you know that

867
00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:34,799
they're here to

868
00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:37,600
study us and they're taking you know uh

869
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:40,240
biological samples and they're you know

870
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:42,399
these abductions or

871
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:43,840
you know that they're completely

872
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:46,320
benevolent and there are guardians or

873
00:32:49,830 --> 00:32:48,159
you know there's how many explanations

874
00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:49,840
have there been anybody that tries to

875
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:50,799
tell you

876
00:32:54,149 --> 00:32:52,880
what the alien agenda is what their

877
00:32:57,509 --> 00:32:54,159
intentions are

878
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:57,519
is in my view being as a researcher as a

879
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:00,720
scientist as anybody who's you know

880
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:03,440
proclaiming to report fact it's just

881
00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:05,440
irresponsible because it's just not true

882
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:07,360
nobody number one it's not it's not true

883
00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:10,799
because i i can debunk their specific um

884
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:12,799
position on the matter it's not true

885
00:33:16,070 --> 00:33:14,640
because how could you possibly know i

886
00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:16,080
mean really yeah yeah and that's what

887
00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:18,480
the paracast is all about we're we're in

888
00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:20,080
that exact same

889
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:22,480
position uh in terms of what we're

890
00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:24,720
attempting to do with the show and you

891
00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:26,240
know here's a rule of thumb that i give

892
00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:28,880
people if the person is attempting to

893
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:30,559
have a career

894
00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:32,240
as a ufologist and there are very few

895
00:33:35,190 --> 00:33:33,679
exceptions to this

896
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:35,200
but if they're attempting to pay their

897
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:37,600
bills with their ufological work

898
00:33:42,870 --> 00:33:40,240
in my mind they're not to be trusted

899
00:33:45,269 --> 00:33:42,880
they're compromised they have personal

900
00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:45,279
agendas and they have to come up with

901
00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:46,720
new and different things every six

902
00:33:51,509 --> 00:33:48,559
months to legitimize

903
00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:51,519
uh you know their exposure their their

904
00:33:56,149 --> 00:33:53,279
level of

905
00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:56,159
of of visibility and uh to my mind

906
00:34:01,029 --> 00:33:59,279
anybody who has a job trying to pay

907
00:34:02,710 --> 00:34:01,039
their bills in ufology

908
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:02,720
you shouldn't really pay much attention

909
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:04,000
to them

910
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:06,480
i agree with that 100 that's why

911
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:09,040
anonymous uprising obviously i you know

912
00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:12,159
i own a private military contractor

913
00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:14,800
called phalanx security group psg is a

914
00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:16,800
contract we have about 300 special

915
00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:19,200
operators you know we provide security

916
00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:21,679
services for the most part

917
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my company is going to fund

918
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um

919
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:28,800
most of anonymous uprisings expeditions

920
00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:31,280
and overall operations

921
00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:34,240
our outreach to the public are you know

922
00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:36,960
going to build a platform

923
00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:39,839
uh by which we can aggregate large

924
00:34:42,470 --> 00:34:41,599
volumes of data

925
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:42,480
and

926
00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:49,760
know going to cost pretty penny to to

927
00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:50,720
build

928
00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:52,960
uh and create from scratch but we've got

929
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:55,760
some really talented people that have

930
00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:57,599
enabled us to be able to do that at cost

931
00:35:01,750 --> 00:34:59,280
so that's really what we're investing

932
00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:01,760
most of the capital in if we if i had a

933
00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:03,440
million dollars sitting around that

934
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:05,119
wouldn't put my company at risk i would

935
00:35:07,349 --> 00:35:06,480
do it myself and a lot of what we've

936
00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:07,359
done up to this point has been

937
00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:08,640
self-funded but

938
00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:12,400
our revenue and our funding source is

939
00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:13,680
completely

940
00:35:17,109 --> 00:35:15,680
separate and has nothing to do with the

941
00:35:19,109 --> 00:35:17,119
perp with you know the mission of

942
00:35:19,829 --> 00:35:19,119
anonymous opera uprising we did it that

943
00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:19,839
way

944
00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:21,520
not because we didn't think that we

945
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could trust ourselves to maintain our

946
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:25,599
integrity but i just don't think it's

947
00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:27,839
right if you're doing something and your

948
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:31,040
your objective is to just to affect the

949
00:35:34,550 --> 00:35:32,640
outcome in a significant way i don't

950
00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:34,560
know how you can turn around and just

951
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:36,320
and and monetize

952
00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:38,480
your your work i think this this belongs

953
00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:41,520
to everybody and nobody should say who

954
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:43,440
or who cannot

955
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:45,359
participate and do their part or

956
00:35:48,550 --> 00:35:47,359
contribute i don't think anybody should

957
00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:48,560
should have the right to say that to

958
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:49,839
anybody else

959
00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:52,320
and i i think for me

960
00:35:56,710 --> 00:35:54,640
by comparison to other ufologists our

961
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:56,720
work will probably be very very boring

962
00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:58,560
because real research is

963
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:01,200
a lot a lot of work a lot of time

964
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:04,240
a lot of patience and a lot of data a

965
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:06,640
lot of numbers to go through

966
00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:08,160
and it's the kind of stuff that gets

967
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:10,640
scientists excited but probably the

968
00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:12,880
average person not too excited but it's

969
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:14,720
the outcome that we're we're trying to

970
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:16,240
achieve that's the important thing so

971
00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:17,599
where are you getting this data that

972
00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:18,960
you're crunching

973
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well what we're going to do is

974
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we're going to of course record

975
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all of our contact sessions so we

976
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we've found a

977
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a way theoretically to use

978
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um technology to replicate

979
00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:37,040
consciousness in a very rudimentary way

980
00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:39,040
consciousness in a rudimentary way we're

981
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:41,280
getting into an interesting realm here

982
00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:42,560
we've got

983
00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:45,200
sean korea of anonymous uprising we're

984
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to find out more of what they're doing

985
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and what the prospects might be with

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okay

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you're talking sean about

1096
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duplicating consciousness in a

1097
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rudimentary way

1098
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i assume you're doing something with

1099
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computers here what are we talking about

1100
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well what we're able to do

1101
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is it's pretty straightforward when you

1102
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and i'm not a practitioner right but i

1103
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do have practitioners on the team who

1104
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can get into the nitty-gritty but just

1105
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at a high level so basically how it

1106
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works is

1107
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we can map

1108
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human brain activity today

1109
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so

1110
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when you you when you map it every

1111
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brain wave

1112
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the the data and the information that

1113
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the brain outputs can be replicated and

1114
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then broadcasted using technology

1115
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now you got to remember we're

1116
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going at this it's not like

1117
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communicating with another culture who

1118
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speaks another language okay

1119
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this would be like trying to communicate

1120
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with an ant

1121
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right so

1122
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it's uh

1123
00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:25,520
it's very it's challenging to master

1124
00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:28,400
communicating complex ideas

1125
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:31,520
to an ant so we have to use a very

1126
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:32,560
simple

1127
00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:33,920
communication

1128
00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:36,079
that we can broadcast and that gets

1129
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:37,520
reciprocated

1130
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:40,560
in a format that we can understand and

1131
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:42,960
then from that we can build on it and

1132
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:46,640
try to communicate more complex ideas to

1133
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:49,200
the point if we get really good at it we

1134
00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:50,800
master it we can get to the point where

1135
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:52,400
we can actually have what we would

1136
00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:55,680
consider almost a conversation

1137
00:43:00,230 --> 00:42:58,640
to try to reach some basic understanding

1138
00:43:02,950 --> 00:43:00,240
of what we're dealing with i mean we

1139
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:02,960
have no concept of what their likes

1140
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:04,480
their loves are

1141
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:06,480
a lot of people that you know that fall

1142
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:09,680
into trying to explain their intentions

1143
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:12,880
fail to recognize that we can't even

1144
00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:14,640
begin to understand

1145
00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:16,480
what their politics are

1146
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:18,480
what their point of view is it could be

1147
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:20,560
completely different than you know we're

1148
00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:23,040
trying to make them more relatable to us

1149
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:25,200
in an effort to understand them and i

1150
00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:27,200
think that's probably an error i think

1151
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:28,560
we should just start from scratch and

1152
00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:30,400
assume that they're nothing like this

1153
00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:32,319
okay we're assuming a lot of facts here

1154
00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:33,680
we're assuming

1155
00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:36,800
that ufos represent visitations

1156
00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:39,359
by an extraterrestrial race

1157
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:40,800
and obviously there are skeptics out

1158
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:42,720
there who don't go that far

1159
00:43:45,829 --> 00:43:44,560
and when you look over the ufo field

1160
00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:45,839
through the years

1161
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:47,520
you'll see evidence of certainly

1162
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:49,280
intelligent control you'll also see

1163
00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:50,880
evidence in the early sightings as

1164
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:53,359
someone who has worked as a military

1165
00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:55,760
contractor would probably realize

1166
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:57,119
evidence that

1167
00:44:01,510 --> 00:43:59,599
we had our own stuff going on there

1168
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:01,520
in the early days of the ufo field in

1169
00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:03,760
terms of test aircraft and so forth and

1170
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:07,440
so on but on what basis do you conclude

1171
00:44:13,589 --> 00:44:11,119
that we are being visited by e.t

1172
00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:13,599
i believe that we're visited by e.t i

1173
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:14,720
also believe that there's

1174
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:17,920
interdimensionals there's indigenous

1175
00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:19,920
species to our planet that are here that

1176
00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:21,119
we're just not

1177
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:24,240
um that we don't see um but who've been

1178
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:26,079
here with us we've seen evidence of that

1179
00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:28,880
so it's it's really like this it's there

1180
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:31,680
isn't just one fish in the ocean so if

1181
00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:33,599
you imagine yourself exposing all the

1182
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:35,040
different things you see they're all

1183
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:36,560
very very different

1184
00:44:41,510 --> 00:44:38,560
and a lot of the traffic that we see in

1185
00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:41,520
the sky is is frankly it that's that's

1186
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:43,520
exactly what it is based on on the

1187
00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:45,359
behaviors we've recorded they're just

1188
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:47,680
traffic just passer buyers some

1189
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:50,480
and then some we believe that our have

1190
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:52,079
been here and are here for a while and

1191
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:54,560
that we speak on a recurring basis we

1192
00:45:00,069 --> 00:44:57,680
don't have a catalog of

1193
00:45:03,349 --> 00:45:00,079
the different species or the different

1194
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:03,359
phenomena in order to create discernible

1195
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:05,200
differentiation between them to try to

1196
00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:07,520
focus on anyone so we're really kind of

1197
00:45:11,589 --> 00:45:10,400
starting from scratch and

1198
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:11,599
hopefully

1199
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:14,240
we can try and communicate

1200
00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:16,400
with in a way that resonates with at

1201
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:19,839
least one of them um so we can use that

1202
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:21,599
as a starting point and we don't think

1203
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:22,400
that

1204
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:24,079
i mean we could we could be five years

1205
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:25,920
down the road and not know a whole lot

1206
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:27,520
more but at least get some fundamental

1207
00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:28,800
questions answered and i think that

1208
00:45:31,670 --> 00:45:30,560
would in and of itself be enormous

1209
00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:31,680
progress but

1210
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:33,280
it's just so

1211
00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:36,400
complex and so um

1212
00:45:42,069 --> 00:45:39,680
you know so broad in scope

1213
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:42,079
it's really hard to you know

1214
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:43,520
provide any

1215
00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:44,400
clear

1216
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:47,359
factual confirmation in any one area

1217
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:49,119
that makes sense well you know what

1218
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:51,280
you're saying here is

1219
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:53,520
i think they could be thus and so but i

1220
00:45:58,150 --> 00:45:55,680
didn't ask you that i asked you on what

1221
00:46:00,109 --> 00:45:58,160
basis you conclude that any of those

1222
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:00,119
answers is correct e.t

1223
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:03,520
inter-dimensional some kind of

1224
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:05,440
lost civilization on earth or a

1225
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:07,760
breakaway civilization let's go through

1226
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:08,880
each one

1227
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:11,920
okay e.t how do you conclude that any of

1228
00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:12,720
these

1229
00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:15,200
so-called craft or e.t

1230
00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:16,720
well my

1231
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:18,880
my person what i know to be

1232
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:20,640
you know true based on what i've

1233
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:24,480
observed i worked on um a project

1234
00:46:30,790 --> 00:46:27,040
designing micro satellites specifically

1235
00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:30,800
designed to track to observe

1236
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:35,200
and to in some instances uh disable

1237
00:46:40,069 --> 00:46:37,119
uh craft that

1238
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:40,079
uh in our system in our solar system

1239
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:43,520
and so if if we if there's indigenous

1240
00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:47,280
species or interdimensionals that are uh

1241
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:49,440
you know uh

1242
00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:53,200
occupying our solar system um

1243
00:46:58,390 --> 00:46:56,319
and they're not extraterrestrials

1244
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:58,400
that's possible but

1245
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:00,480
all the evidence that i've seen suggest

1246
00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:04,240
that they are in fact extraterrestrials

1247
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:06,800
they could very well

1248
00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:08,720
be from our solar system or outside

1249
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,319
outsider solar system i don't know

1250
00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:14,400
but uh based on what i've seen

1251
00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:16,160
personally which particular satellite

1252
00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:18,480
suggestion that they

1253
00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:20,160
which which particular satellite system

1254
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:22,800
are you referring to

1255
00:47:28,550 --> 00:47:26,319
well we worked on the boards um the

1256
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:28,560
technology that went into

1257
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:30,160
the satellites

1258
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:33,760
where it went from there and how it was

1259
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:36,480
how many went into production and how

1260
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:38,880
many they actually put

1261
00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:41,920
into play i don't know i only know from

1262
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:43,200
our initial

1263
00:47:48,550 --> 00:47:46,079
uh the initial launch of the first

1264
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:48,560
satellite that we put out there

1265
00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:49,760
under

1266
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:52,640
coincidentally project phalanx which is

1267
00:47:55,829 --> 00:47:54,160
really what inspired me to call my

1268
00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:55,839
company phalanx

1269
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:57,920
is what i'm referring to

1270
00:48:01,990 --> 00:48:00,240
and the specific capability that we

1271
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:02,000
installed was

1272
00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:02,880
a

1273
00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:06,560
lsdf

1274
00:48:11,589 --> 00:48:09,280
and location-specific

1275
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:11,599
digital fingerprint it's a technology

1276
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:14,400
that enabled us to

1277
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:16,480
temporarily disable

1278
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:17,680
systems

1279
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:20,640
in their craft so that they could be uh

1280
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:22,800
be so they could use that technology for

1281
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:24,160
a controlled descent so that they

1282
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:27,200
wouldn't destroy or harm

1283
00:48:31,990 --> 00:48:29,599
the occupants but could bring them in

1284
00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:32,000
for closer study and this is really also

1285
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:34,240
used as a fail-safe defenses just in the

1286
00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:36,000
case of the worst case scenario from

1287
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:36,880
what we

1288
00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:38,800
were told but

1289
00:48:43,750 --> 00:48:41,760
that's what i know

1290
00:48:46,309 --> 00:48:43,760
all right i understand this is really

1291
00:48:48,069 --> 00:48:46,319
fascinating but i'm still not getting an

1292
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:48,079
answer here you're telling us how you're

1293
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:50,400
doing something but you're not telling

1294
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:53,280
us what evidence there is that what is

1295
00:48:57,349 --> 00:48:55,280
being seen is extraterrestrial can you

1296
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:57,359
be more specific

1297
00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:59,280
well other than what i just told you i

1298
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:01,040
don't i can't that's

1299
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:03,119
that is based on what i've seen that

1300
00:49:07,109 --> 00:49:06,240
would be my conclusion i could be wrong

1301
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:07,119
but

1302
00:49:11,109 --> 00:49:09,760
uh when i observe in my view you know

1303
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:11,119
craft that

1304
00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:12,400
occupy

1305
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:13,760
space

1306
00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:18,240
system we've observed

1307
00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:19,760
um

1308
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:22,960
they're extraterrestrial if they're not

1309
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:24,160
ours

1310
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:26,640
if they are terrestrial uh sophisticated

1311
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:28,480
technology that's a possibility like i

1312
00:49:32,309 --> 00:49:30,880
said but just based on what i told you

1313
00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:32,319
what i understand

1314
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:34,400
my guess is that they are for sure

1315
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:35,839
extraterrestrials

1316
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,640
what characteristics specifically

1317
00:49:41,829 --> 00:49:40,720
do you see that structure

1318
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:41,839
go ahead

1319
00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:44,880
well structured craft technology that

1320
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:47,440
has you know advanced propulsion systems

1321
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:49,040
that enable them to

1322
00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:54,880
um uh you know to do what we observe

1323
00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:56,800
them doing versus

1324
00:50:02,470 --> 00:49:59,200
inter-dimensional technologies which

1325
00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:02,480
don't really have structure those orbs

1326
00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:03,920
and those craft

1327
00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:06,880
partially materialized and almost opaque

1328
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:09,359
and we believe you know that that

1329
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:11,040
appears to be

1330
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:13,839
technology used to

1331
00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:16,240
to travel between dimensions

1332
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:18,400
so we think the

1333
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:20,640
more structured crafts were designed

1334
00:50:24,630 --> 00:50:22,480
specifically for

1335
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:24,640
space travel so

1336
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:32,390
sightings um

1337
00:50:39,270 --> 00:50:34,880
in some cases even appear to be

1338
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:39,280
actual beings so it's not even a a craft

1339
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:41,520
per se that that partially materializes

1340
00:50:47,349 --> 00:50:44,240
it looks like it's a

1341
00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:47,359
some kind of a

1342
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:49,440
life form and not a craft

1343
00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:52,000
which is interesting have you ever heard

1344
00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:55,200
of a ufo researcher and we'll have to go

1345
00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:57,359
into our next segment on this name

1346
00:51:01,109 --> 00:50:58,480
trevor

1347
00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:01,119
james constable

1348
00:51:06,790 --> 00:51:02,960
who wrote a book called they live in the

1349
00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:06,800
sky he talked about some ufos being

1350
00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:08,960
living beings

1351
00:51:12,549 --> 00:51:10,319
and that's what you bring up and that's

1352
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:12,559
why we're going to ask you more about

1353
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:14,160
some of the things you've discovered and

1354
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:15,599
trying to get some more information we

1355
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:17,200
don't have to break in a moment sir we

1356
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:18,880
have to break in a moment and then we'll

1357
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:21,119
get back to this of course we're talking

1358
00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:23,119
to sean korea

1359
00:51:26,790 --> 00:51:25,040
the project is anonymous uprising and

1360
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:26,800
we're focusing our attention very much

1361
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:27,680
so

1362
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:30,240
on the evidence that convinces him that

1363
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:32,400
we're being visited by e.t

1364
00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:34,480
and to some degree by interdimensional

1365
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:36,800
beings and maybe buy those from a

1366
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breakaway civilization with gene and

1367
00:51:53,790 --> 00:51:52,870
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1369
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1373
00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:04,000
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1374
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1375
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:07,359
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1376
00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:09,839
officer is haunted by intense dreams

1377
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:12,400
about a beautiful woman pleading for his

1378
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:14,720
help after a terrible battle in outer

1379
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1380
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1381
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:19,920
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1382
00:52:25,109 --> 00:52:22,640
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1383
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intent on destroying the earth

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00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:09,910
welcome back to the paracast the gold

1424
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standard of paranormal radio

1425
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:14,880
and now

1426
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:18,210
here's gene steinberg

1427
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:24,390
sean korea of anonymous uprising is with

1428
00:54:28,390 --> 00:54:26,960
us let's just go into this evidence more

1429
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:28,400
so you're saying that

1430
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:30,640
the instantaneous

1431
00:54:34,549 --> 00:54:33,040
disappearance of a craft

1432
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:34,559
may indicate

1433
00:54:39,030 --> 00:54:36,960
to you that it is going into another

1434
00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:39,040
dimension is that correct

1435
00:54:44,309 --> 00:54:41,760
yes in some cases we also

1436
00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:44,319
observed that craft disappearing and

1437
00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:45,839
then reappearing

1438
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:48,880
you know 100 miles 200 miles away so we

1439
00:54:53,589 --> 00:54:51,440
think that they're able to travel

1440
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:53,599
within a single dimension

1441
00:54:58,870 --> 00:54:56,160
that's what enabled them to to travel so

1442
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:58,880
at such high speeds but also use that

1443
00:55:02,309 --> 00:54:59,920
same

1444
00:55:04,630 --> 00:55:02,319
technology to travel between dimensions

1445
00:55:06,710 --> 00:55:04,640
and and yeah like you said i've heard

1446
00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:06,720
that well i think i've heard i've heard

1447
00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:08,480
of the some of the

1448
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:10,240
the caterpillars in the sky that look

1449
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:12,240
like like snakes or caterpillars that

1450
00:55:16,549 --> 00:55:14,160
are actually cracked and and some people

1451
00:55:18,150 --> 00:55:16,559
have theorized they're biological which

1452
00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:18,160
is kind of interesting certainly not

1453
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:20,240
outside the wrong possibility from my

1454
00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:22,160
own personal experience and i think for

1455
00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:24,480
most people that i talk to that are

1456
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,480
curious about this that want to have a

1457
00:55:30,790 --> 00:55:28,559
have an experience of their own

1458
00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:30,800
i would say most people reason why

1459
00:55:35,670 --> 00:55:32,640
everybody doesn't see craft is not

1460
00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:35,680
everybody's looking if if you spend uh

1461
00:55:38,549 --> 00:55:37,839
some time just looking at the sky you'll

1462
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:38,559
see

1463
00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:43,599
defense minister for canada said it

1464
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:45,200
actually pretty eloquently when he said

1465
00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:46,480
that you know there's

1466
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:49,520
they occupy our skies with the frequency

1467
00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:52,079
and and in the same numbers as airplanes

1468
00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:54,000
you know air traffic and i find that to

1469
00:55:56,789 --> 00:55:55,839
be actually uh pretty true but most

1470
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:56,799
people

1471
00:56:00,630 --> 00:55:58,720
don't look up too often and usually

1472
00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:00,640
don't venture out more than 55 miles

1473
00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:02,960
away from where they live for myself

1474
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:04,559
when i decided to get into this and i

1475
00:56:09,109 --> 00:56:06,960
wanted to get some hands on i bought a

1476
00:56:11,190 --> 00:56:09,119
telescope just maybe five six hundred

1477
00:56:14,069 --> 00:56:11,200
dollar telescope the best i could find

1478
00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:14,079
you know not being an optics pro

1479
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:16,640
and i pointed it at the moon and i took

1480
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:18,960
my cell phone put it on the eyepiece

1481
00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:20,720
made sure to block out any light and

1482
00:56:25,030 --> 00:56:22,640
took a few pictures of what i observed

1483
00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:25,040
on the moon it doesn't take a lot to

1484
00:56:28,870 --> 00:56:26,640
recognize the reel when they're out

1485
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:28,880
there when you start to try to get too

1486
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:30,559
deep you start to realize that there's

1487
00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:32,799
more different varieties and more things

1488
00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:34,319
that you'll see that you can't explain

1489
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:35,839
that don't seem to be related to each

1490
00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:38,000
other which can be frustrating

1491
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:40,160
but it's true so i've had a number of

1492
00:56:43,349 --> 00:56:41,680
experiences

1493
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:43,359
sometimes by accident sometimes

1494
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:45,760
intentionally just observing the skies

1495
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:47,280
to see what i can see

1496
00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:49,839
and i based on what i've seen it would

1497
00:56:53,349 --> 00:56:51,359
certainly appear

1498
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:53,359
as though a number of these are

1499
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:55,680
terrestrial if they're not i don't have

1500
00:56:59,510 --> 00:56:56,559
another

1501
00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:59,520
explanation for them you know i can um

1502
00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:01,040
identify with that

1503
00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:03,040
you know people ask me all the time you

1504
00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:05,200
know how come you've seen so many things

1505
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:06,640
over the years and

1506
00:57:10,789 --> 00:57:08,240
yeah i mean it's a very simple answer i

1507
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:10,799
look most people don't look above eye

1508
00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:11,680
level

1509
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:13,760
and uh they're not really that

1510
00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:16,079
familiar with their surroundings

1511
00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:17,359
when you live in the country on the

1512
00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:19,359
internet yeah they're looking down at

1513
00:57:24,309 --> 00:57:21,920
their phones basically exactly i've

1514
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:24,319
lived years and years out in the great

1515
00:57:29,349 --> 00:57:27,359
outdoors in rural areas and um i think

1516
00:57:32,309 --> 00:57:29,359
people that live in rural areas

1517
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:32,319
uh just i think just automatically are

1518
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:33,599
much more

1519
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:36,240
attendant to their um surroundings and

1520
00:57:41,030 --> 00:57:38,400
and more observant and

1521
00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:41,040
and more apt to um to see things um

1522
00:57:44,789 --> 00:57:42,480
because they're they're actually more

1523
00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:44,799
aware i think you know you mentioned

1524
00:57:49,270 --> 00:57:46,559
paul hellyer um

1525
00:57:52,549 --> 00:57:49,280
i i haven't heard any names um that

1526
00:57:55,109 --> 00:57:52,559
you've mentioned um that haven't had

1527
00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:55,119
some sort of pr kind of presence you

1528
00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:56,240
know there

1529
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:58,400
the people that that gene and i and and

1530
00:58:02,789 --> 00:58:00,960
a lot of the listeners on our show

1531
00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:02,799
tend to be more familiar with and and

1532
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:04,160
tend to um

1533
00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:05,760
gravitate towards are the ones that

1534
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:08,400
don't um have pr presences don't have

1535
00:58:12,309 --> 00:58:10,319
cults of personality people that are

1536
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:12,319
quietly doing the work

1537
00:58:15,670 --> 00:58:13,520
and

1538
00:58:17,030 --> 00:58:15,680
are doing it in such a way that doesn't

1539
00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:17,040
include

1540
00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:22,390
sensibilities you know i i was a

1541
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:24,240
cameraman at the um

1542
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:26,079
at the citizens here on hearing on

1543
00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:28,720
disclosure i saw all five days

1544
00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:31,040
and to have a stephen bassett to have

1545
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:32,559
paul hellyer

1546
00:58:37,109 --> 00:58:34,720
get up and finish

1547
00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:37,119
the entire five-day proceedings by

1548
00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:38,720
reading a quote

1549
00:58:43,349 --> 00:58:41,920
from a book by a very questionable

1550
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:43,359
contactee

1551
00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:45,839
and uh quote the aliens in in how they

1552
00:58:48,950 --> 00:58:46,640
uh

1553
00:58:50,549 --> 00:58:48,960
they see us and how we're destroying our

1554
00:58:52,150 --> 00:58:50,559
environment and stuff

1555
00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:52,160
to me

1556
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:54,400
it's this field this field is so

1557
00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:55,520
childish

1558
00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:57,280
and it's so um

1559
00:59:02,150 --> 00:58:58,720
immature

1560
00:59:03,430 --> 00:59:02,160
because of the fact that people tend to

1561
00:59:05,270 --> 00:59:03,440
listen to

1562
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:05,280
you know who's yelling the loudest or

1563
00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:08,079
who has the the the highest level of

1564
00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:11,359
visibility and um i really think that

1565
00:59:15,670 --> 00:59:14,079
there's a serious lack

1566
00:59:17,829 --> 00:59:15,680
of discernment

1567
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:17,839
uh in the field i don't think there's

1568
00:59:21,510 --> 00:59:20,240
enough uh emphasis on

1569
00:59:24,789 --> 00:59:21,520
on people

1570
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:24,799
becoming educated having a well-rounded

1571
00:59:28,549 --> 00:59:26,319
knowledge of

1572
00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:28,559
those who have done excellent work uh

1573
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:29,520
prior

1574
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:31,680
to this particular

1575
00:59:38,309 --> 00:59:34,799
day and age um going all the way back

1576
00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:38,319
into the 40s and 50s in the 60s and 70s

1577
00:59:42,470 --> 00:59:40,640
there there are many many people

1578
00:59:44,549 --> 00:59:42,480
brilliant thinkers

1579
00:59:46,789 --> 00:59:44,559
who you've never heard of

1580
00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:46,799
that have way more to share

1581
00:59:52,950 --> 00:59:49,920
uh in terms of of insights and in the

1582
00:59:56,069 --> 00:59:52,960
gravitas of of of knowledge

1583
00:59:59,510 --> 00:59:56,079
uh than anyone that you've mentioned uh

1584
01:00:01,510 --> 00:59:59,520
and i i really urge all our listeners uh

1585
01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:01,520
constantly as gene does

1586
01:00:04,789 --> 01:00:03,359
to really

1587
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:04,799
become

1588
01:00:08,549 --> 01:00:06,480
a well-rounded

1589
01:00:09,829 --> 01:00:08,559
person in in in this field in terms of

1590
01:00:11,990 --> 01:00:09,839
your your

1591
01:00:14,630 --> 01:00:12,000
your looking for knowledge looking for

1592
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:14,640
for sources of of knowledge and

1593
01:00:18,069 --> 01:00:16,000
inspiration

1594
01:00:20,230 --> 01:00:18,079
that are grounded in in science and

1595
01:00:21,270 --> 01:00:20,240
grounded in in reality not wishful

1596
01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:21,280
thinking

1597
01:00:27,430 --> 01:00:24,160
and uh you know i really i admire your

1598
01:00:29,910 --> 01:00:27,440
enthusiasm i think that um you you have

1599
01:00:32,870 --> 01:00:29,920
a very um what appears to be on the

1600
01:00:34,789 --> 01:00:32,880
surface a a good concept but

1601
01:00:37,109 --> 01:00:34,799
i think you're you're still operating

1602
01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:37,119
and you know pardon me if i'm maybe

1603
01:00:40,789 --> 01:00:39,280
misstating this but i think you're still

1604
01:00:44,789 --> 01:00:40,799
operating from a

1605
01:00:46,549 --> 01:00:44,799
from a place of of pop culture and

1606
01:00:48,069 --> 01:00:46,559
kind of a want to believe

1607
01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:48,079
perspective

1608
01:00:52,069 --> 01:00:49,680
well just to clarify for all the

1609
01:00:53,990 --> 01:00:52,079
listeners and just to be absolutely

1610
01:00:55,510 --> 01:00:54,000
clear so there's no

1611
01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:55,520
misunderstanding

1612
01:01:01,829 --> 01:00:58,640
i am not a person that has

1613
01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:01,839
any answers at all all i can offer are

1614
01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:04,000
probably infinite questions

1615
01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:05,440
and that's really how we're approaching

1616
01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:09,040
this i i'm my goal is if i can if we can

1617
01:01:14,470 --> 01:01:12,480
do a body of research that stands up to

1618
01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:14,480
you know scientific rigor which we could

1619
01:01:19,430 --> 01:01:17,040
take to an established institution

1620
01:01:22,390 --> 01:01:19,440
and they could look at our work look at

1621
01:01:25,270 --> 01:01:22,400
our methods and we use standard uh you

1622
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:25,280
know broadly approved

1623
01:01:30,230 --> 01:01:28,400
methods to collect the data we collect

1624
01:01:32,470 --> 01:01:30,240
and it can stand up to that scientific

1625
01:01:34,390 --> 01:01:32,480
rigor and one institution looks at what

1626
01:01:36,470 --> 01:01:34,400
we did says you did all the right things

1627
01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:36,480
you didn't take any shortcuts

1628
01:01:41,430 --> 01:01:39,440
and you produced a volume of of research

1629
01:01:43,910 --> 01:01:41,440
that was done correctly

1630
01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:43,920
and that provokes at least one

1631
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:46,319
institution to jump in and say okay

1632
01:01:51,109 --> 01:01:48,240
we're gonna take a look at this and

1633
01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:51,119
we're gonna actually based on this

1634
01:01:55,750 --> 01:01:53,599
we're gonna you know uh fund

1635
01:01:58,150 --> 01:01:55,760
uh the next step in this process that

1636
01:01:59,109 --> 01:01:58,160
would be a huge win a huge win and i

1637
01:02:00,870 --> 01:01:59,119
think that you know that sounds

1638
01:02:02,950 --> 01:02:00,880
excellent i'm really i'm really

1639
01:02:03,829 --> 01:02:02,960
gratified to hear you say that why don't

1640
01:02:07,030 --> 01:02:03,839
we

1641
01:02:09,589 --> 01:02:07,040
kind of look at some of the protocols

1642
01:02:11,829 --> 01:02:09,599
and methodology and technology that

1643
01:02:14,309 --> 01:02:11,839
you're that you're you're planning to

1644
01:02:16,230 --> 01:02:14,319
throw at this um at this conundrum and

1645
01:02:17,829 --> 01:02:16,240
also uh how you're identifying where

1646
01:02:18,549 --> 01:02:17,839
you're going to

1647
01:02:22,150 --> 01:02:18,559
to

1648
01:02:29,589 --> 01:02:23,030
so

1649
01:02:31,190 --> 01:02:29,599
we've got a a gentleman who's a tenured

1650
01:02:32,789 --> 01:02:31,200
professor who is

1651
01:02:34,470 --> 01:02:32,799
an expert

1652
01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:34,480
in behavioral science

1653
01:02:39,589 --> 01:02:36,480
to kind of help us with

1654
01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:39,599
crafting messages that

1655
01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:40,480
um

1656
01:02:43,670 --> 01:02:42,640
won't inadvertently

1657
01:02:44,870 --> 01:02:43,680
um

1658
01:02:47,030 --> 01:02:44,880
or couldn't be

1659
01:02:49,670 --> 01:02:47,040
misunderstood or inadvertently create a

1660
01:02:52,549 --> 01:02:49,680
problem we want to be responsible

1661
01:02:54,630 --> 01:02:52,559
and with with how we craft the messages

1662
01:02:55,910 --> 01:02:54,640
that we broadcast

1663
01:02:59,190 --> 01:02:55,920
we don't want to

1664
01:03:02,470 --> 01:02:59,200
cause any problems we want to to learn

1665
01:03:06,069 --> 01:03:02,480
we also have an expert in

1666
01:03:08,549 --> 01:03:06,079
communications who's worked with just

1667
01:03:11,990 --> 01:03:08,559
a whole array of different technologies

1668
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:12,000
in the area of rs and other

1669
01:03:17,029 --> 01:03:15,280
broadcast technologies who can help

1670
01:03:18,470 --> 01:03:17,039
interact and

1671
01:03:21,829 --> 01:03:18,480
experiment with some different

1672
01:03:24,390 --> 01:03:21,839
technologies to help us in our effort to

1673
01:03:27,910 --> 01:03:24,400
communicate and then we have

1674
01:03:30,309 --> 01:03:27,920
some experts in in critical thinking uh

1675
01:03:32,950 --> 01:03:30,319
critical problem solving and and we have

1676
01:03:36,470 --> 01:03:32,960
a a team of software developers

1677
01:03:37,910 --> 01:03:36,480
to help us in our analysis and help us

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to craft

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protocols that will work nothing we've

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are suggesting this is all theorized

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let's continue our next segment

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about the methodologies that you're

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using for anonymous uprising with gene

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[Music]

1790
01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:23,279
so we're looking at the methodologies

1791
01:08:25,189 --> 01:08:24,400
here

1792
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:25,199
for

1793
01:08:30,709 --> 01:08:28,080
i guess instituting first contact from

1794
01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:30,719
sean korea of anonymous uprising before

1795
01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:33,040
we go on though can you name any of the

1796
01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:34,960
scientists that you're working with so

1797
01:08:38,630 --> 01:08:37,600
we get an idea of the fields and who

1798
01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:38,640
they are

1799
01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:40,880
i i can't i wouldn't feel comfortable

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they at this point i was elected to be

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01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:46,080
the sort of the public face and for

1802
01:08:50,070 --> 01:08:48,000
obvious reasons and protecting the

1803
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:50,080
anonymity of the people that are

1804
01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:53,040
involved because they all make a living

1805
01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:56,000
in the legitimate world where where they

1806
01:09:00,070 --> 01:08:58,080
work so we don't want to

1807
01:09:02,630 --> 01:09:00,080
create any problems that might affect

1808
01:09:04,870 --> 01:09:02,640
their livelihood or their careers to

1809
01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:04,880
participate in this so i hope you

1810
01:09:08,709 --> 01:09:07,199
understand hope our listeners understand

1811
01:09:10,149 --> 01:09:08,719
well i think part of the issue here is

1812
01:09:12,550 --> 01:09:10,159
you're trying to raise a lot of money

1813
01:09:14,070 --> 01:09:12,560
your gofundme campaign is for one

1814
01:09:16,390 --> 01:09:14,080
million dollars

1815
01:09:18,309 --> 01:09:16,400
and to get enough people to come up with

1816
01:09:20,309 --> 01:09:18,319
enough money to fund this they're going

1817
01:09:22,390 --> 01:09:20,319
to want as much information as they can

1818
01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:22,400
get this is not just somebody trying to

1819
01:09:25,269 --> 01:09:23,279
raise

1820
01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:25,279
money for an operation

1821
01:09:28,390 --> 01:09:26,480
good point

1822
01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:28,400
let me do this let me

1823
01:09:32,309 --> 01:09:30,080
ask their permission and if they say

1824
01:09:34,390 --> 01:09:32,319
it's okay i'll publish it

1825
01:09:35,110 --> 01:09:34,400
but the other issue i think we have here

1826
01:09:36,070 --> 01:09:35,120
is

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01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:36,080
whether

1828
01:09:40,709 --> 01:09:38,880
trying to initiate first contact is the

1829
01:09:42,789 --> 01:09:40,719
cart before the horse wouldn't it be

1830
01:09:44,390 --> 01:09:42,799
better to first fund more research to

1831
01:09:47,829 --> 01:09:44,400
get a better handle

1832
01:09:50,149 --> 01:09:47,839
on what ufos are and then step two

1833
01:09:52,390 --> 01:09:50,159
if you still conclude it's et and

1834
01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:52,400
something that can be contacted you

1835
01:09:55,830 --> 01:09:54,000
attempt that contact

1836
01:09:58,229 --> 01:09:55,840
that's also a good point we thought

1837
01:10:01,270 --> 01:09:58,239
about that but we have to start

1838
01:10:03,030 --> 01:10:01,280
somewhere and getting access to

1839
01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:03,040
i think from my experiences and

1840
01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:04,960
experiences of the team without

1841
01:10:09,350 --> 01:10:06,880
cooperation from

1842
01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:09,360
the military be difficult to observe

1843
01:10:12,950 --> 01:10:11,520
them close enough to get really

1844
01:10:17,110 --> 01:10:12,960
much of a better understanding than we

1845
01:10:19,590 --> 01:10:17,120
have now so by initiating contact and

1846
01:10:21,590 --> 01:10:19,600
doing it well and and building on that

1847
01:10:23,910 --> 01:10:21,600
we can get them close enough to

1848
01:10:25,910 --> 01:10:23,920
get some of those answers so we've

1849
01:10:28,229 --> 01:10:25,920
talked through that and

1850
01:10:30,390 --> 01:10:28,239
i'm not sure how we would

1851
01:10:31,990 --> 01:10:30,400
approach it the other way so

1852
01:10:34,470 --> 01:10:32,000
this was just seemed to be the most

1853
01:10:36,950 --> 01:10:34,480
sensible way to start but what if there

1854
01:10:38,950 --> 01:10:36,960
is really nothing that you can contact

1855
01:10:40,390 --> 01:10:38,960
it could be a phenomenon that

1856
01:10:42,950 --> 01:10:40,400
does not have

1857
01:10:45,430 --> 01:10:42,960
any way of engaging in back and forth

1858
01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:45,440
conversation with earthlings

1859
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:48,159
that's a possibility i can't say that

1860
01:10:51,669 --> 01:10:49,600
that's not a possibility it's a

1861
01:10:54,149 --> 01:10:51,679
possibility but you know we'll we'll

1862
01:10:56,390 --> 01:10:54,159
find that out um i from what i've seen

1863
01:10:58,870 --> 01:10:56,400
and observed i'm optimistic that

1864
01:11:00,950 --> 01:10:58,880
that's at least some can communicate in

1865
01:11:02,310 --> 01:11:00,960
a way that might be meaningful part some

1866
01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:02,320
of the reasons why i don't think that's

1867
01:11:06,950 --> 01:11:04,960
happened yet to this to this point is

1868
01:11:08,790 --> 01:11:06,960
the methods that people have used you

1869
01:11:10,630 --> 01:11:08,800
know consciousness alone it's really

1870
01:11:13,990 --> 01:11:10,640
difficult to sustain

1871
01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:14,000
a complex idea in your mind long enough

1872
01:11:18,709 --> 01:11:16,159
to for it to be reciprocated you know

1873
01:11:20,470 --> 01:11:18,719
it's it's even the best people who are

1874
01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:20,480
masters of meditation and can do that

1875
01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:21,760
really well have a challenge or

1876
01:11:26,310 --> 01:11:24,239
challenge by it the other thing is

1877
01:11:28,870 --> 01:11:26,320
depending on the location that you pick

1878
01:11:31,030 --> 01:11:28,880
it can be problematic if you're near

1879
01:11:32,149 --> 01:11:31,040
you know if you're operating near a

1880
01:11:33,270 --> 01:11:32,159
commercial

1881
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:33,280
um

1882
01:11:37,910 --> 01:11:35,760
any commercial air traffic or near

1883
01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:37,920
military installation

1884
01:11:40,709 --> 01:11:39,280
a lot of times they'll get chased out of

1885
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:40,719
the area before you've had a chance to

1886
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:43,440
really collect a whole lot of data so

1887
01:11:46,550 --> 01:11:44,880
um

1888
01:11:48,149 --> 01:11:46,560
so that that's that's one of the things

1889
01:11:51,669 --> 01:11:48,159
that we thought through well i'm still

1890
01:11:53,910 --> 01:11:51,679
confused as to what the actual um

1891
01:11:56,470 --> 01:11:53,920
uh you know what you're actually doing

1892
01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:56,480
uh when you are

1893
01:12:01,030 --> 01:11:58,400
attempting to initiate contract i mean

1894
01:12:03,910 --> 01:12:01,040
stephen grier flashes lights he he plays

1895
01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:03,920
the cuckoo sounds uh recorded in a

1896
01:12:08,229 --> 01:12:05,840
a crop circle

1897
01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:08,239
all the students place their hands on

1898
01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:09,360
the doctor

1899
01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:11,360
they coherent thought sequence and

1900
01:12:16,870 --> 01:12:14,400
meditate and and the doctor is the

1901
01:12:19,750 --> 01:12:16,880
conduit in which their their uh

1902
01:12:22,550 --> 01:12:19,760
invitation is sent out to the cosmos i

1903
01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:22,560
i mean there's various ways uh ray

1904
01:12:27,590 --> 01:12:26,320
stanford back in the 50s used to

1905
01:12:29,669 --> 01:12:27,600
do

1906
01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:29,679
candles in

1907
01:12:34,709 --> 01:12:31,520
coffee cans in the shape of a flying

1908
01:12:37,270 --> 01:12:34,719
saucer huge you know 300 foot

1909
01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:37,280
little lit dots on the ground uh

1910
01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:39,760
what sort of technology are you using

1911
01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:42,239
uh what's the stuff greer's done yeah

1912
01:12:46,229 --> 01:12:44,080
some of the stuff that greer's done you

1913
01:12:48,229 --> 01:12:46,239
know it it like i said it's

1914
01:12:50,790 --> 01:12:48,239
whale watching basically i mean

1915
01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:50,800
you know some of those methods work to

1916
01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:53,120
get their attention get them to vector

1917
01:12:58,070 --> 01:12:56,080
in on a on a particular group of people

1918
01:12:59,430 --> 01:12:58,080
and they'll they'll show up in the sky

1919
01:13:01,910 --> 01:12:59,440
and yes

1920
01:13:04,229 --> 01:13:01,920
you know laser pointer um i wouldn't

1921
01:13:05,669 --> 01:13:04,239
recommend pointing one you know in an

1922
01:13:06,870 --> 01:13:05,679
area that has a lot of commercial

1923
01:13:09,110 --> 01:13:06,880
traffic but

1924
01:13:11,030 --> 01:13:09,120
they will interact with that and respond

1925
01:13:12,149 --> 01:13:11,040
back and you know you have a moment but

1926
01:13:14,070 --> 01:13:12,159
it's fleeting

1927
01:13:16,310 --> 01:13:14,080
sean you're mentioning here what stephen

1928
01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:16,320
greer is doing and you understand the

1929
01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:18,480
serious ufo researchers take nothing

1930
01:13:23,270 --> 01:13:20,400
what he says or claims

1931
01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:23,280
as serious have you gone out have you

1932
01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:24,880
actually gone out

1933
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:27,760
on these so-called sea city

1934
01:13:31,430 --> 01:13:29,600
expeditions and seen this stuff for

1935
01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:31,440
yourself or is this just what you've

1936
01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:32,719
heard

1937
01:13:38,709 --> 01:13:36,000
i i no i i haven't if i've

1938
01:13:41,669 --> 01:13:38,719
number one i've reviewed all the footage

1939
01:13:44,149 --> 01:13:41,679
um number two i've replicated this on my

1940
01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:44,159
own and i see how it works i see the

1941
01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:45,679
mirror in some of the techniques that

1942
01:13:49,350 --> 01:13:46,960
are used

1943
01:13:50,709 --> 01:13:49,360
some of them are for show in my opinion

1944
01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:50,719
um you know

1945
01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:52,800
are a little bit you know we're there to

1946
01:13:57,030 --> 01:13:55,040
build camaraderie and create a oneness

1947
01:13:58,149 --> 01:13:57,040
or whatever it's a little bit creepy to

1948
01:14:00,470 --> 01:13:58,159
me but

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some of the basics um

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you know the broadcasting of the tones

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the um picking a remote location that's

1952
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you know not near a dense densely

1953
01:14:12,550 --> 01:14:10,400
populated area so you're easier to be

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vectored in on the consciousness

1955
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meditation the co-sync thought uh

1956
01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:18,320
you know that some of that stuff can

1957
01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:21,120
produce results the problem with

1958
01:14:25,510 --> 01:14:23,040
the problem i've had is none of that

1959
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information has been documented so you

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could build on it and there hasn't

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really been anything done to

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um

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01:14:36,229 --> 01:14:35,040
to produce a consistent result or

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created a

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01:14:40,950 --> 01:14:38,080
mechanism by way you they could

1966
01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:40,960
reciprocate and we can decipher

1967
01:14:44,229 --> 01:14:42,400
what they sent back to us in a

1968
01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:44,239
meaningful way and understand it so

1969
01:14:51,430 --> 01:14:45,600
there's big

1970
01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:51,440
it's like any anybody can take a gun

1971
01:14:55,669 --> 01:14:54,000
go out and and shoot it whether you hit

1972
01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:55,679
your targets another question that's

1973
01:14:59,030 --> 01:14:57,440
that's kind of the way i look at it i

1974
01:15:00,630 --> 01:14:59,040
think there there could have been a

1975
01:15:01,510 --> 01:15:00,640
little bit more structure put around

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this

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01:15:05,350 --> 01:15:03,440
uh you know you could have

1978
01:15:07,669 --> 01:15:05,360
let let people leverage more expertise

1979
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to understand what works what doesn't

1980
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and try to improve and build on it and

1981
01:15:14,149 --> 01:15:11,440
that's really what we're focused on

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doing in his in his particular situation

1983
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there's no real reason to do that

1984
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because what he's doing is working for

1985
01:15:21,270 --> 01:15:20,159
his own

1986
01:15:22,709 --> 01:15:21,280
you know

1987
01:15:24,870 --> 01:15:22,719
business and what his personal

1988
01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:24,880
objectives are so okay so you have seen

1989
01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:27,199
videos here you know you've seen videos

1990
01:15:31,030 --> 01:15:28,400
from grier

1991
01:15:32,390 --> 01:15:31,040
that show anomalous phenomena

1992
01:15:34,310 --> 01:15:32,400
and understand this has never been

1993
01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:34,320
produced for anybody this has never been

1994
01:15:38,310 --> 01:15:36,880
produced for anybody things have been

1995
01:15:40,790 --> 01:15:38,320
no none of this has ever been produced

1996
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for anybody i think he had something one

1997
01:15:46,550 --> 01:15:43,280
time a movie that showed an alien which

1998
01:15:52,149 --> 01:15:49,590
do you understand the concerns here

1999
01:15:53,750 --> 01:15:52,159
well no i totally do and i'm not using

2000
01:15:55,270 --> 01:15:53,760
you know just

2001
01:15:57,189 --> 01:15:55,280
this isn't secondhand i'm saying that

2002
01:15:59,910 --> 01:15:57,199
i've taken some of the protocols they're

2003
01:16:01,270 --> 01:15:59,920
pretty pretty simple rudimentary

2004
01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:01,280
and and

2005
01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:03,520
replicated them on my own

2006
01:16:08,790 --> 01:16:06,000
and they do yield results just not the

2007
01:16:10,709 --> 01:16:08,800
kind of results that i think would be

2008
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you know sufficient

2009
01:16:16,149 --> 01:16:11,679
to

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01:16:18,390 --> 01:16:16,159
we know we know they're there we know

2011
01:16:20,470 --> 01:16:18,400
they're real they'll show up 15 20

2012
01:16:23,350 --> 01:16:20,480
minutes they're up there you can observe

2013
01:16:24,790 --> 01:16:23,360
them and then they're gone that's to me

2014
01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:24,800
is not enough we need to figure out a

2015
01:16:27,270 --> 01:16:26,080
way to

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01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:27,280
improve on that and that's what we're

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trying to do

2018
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let's cover that part in our next

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segment

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we have more with sean korea and gene

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this is robert hastings author of ufos

2127
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and nukes and you're listening to the

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01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:15,360
paracast the gold standard of paranormal

2129
01:21:22,149 --> 01:21:15,810
radio

2130
01:21:25,669 --> 01:21:23,990
we're continuing with our discussion of

2131
01:21:27,270 --> 01:21:25,679
the methodology

2132
01:21:30,550 --> 01:21:27,280
and the background

2133
01:21:31,430 --> 01:21:30,560
with sean korea of anonymous uprising

2134
01:21:32,630 --> 01:21:31,440
chris

2135
01:21:34,149 --> 01:21:32,640
yeah

2136
01:21:36,229 --> 01:21:34,159
you know sean i was there at the very

2137
01:21:39,270 --> 01:21:36,239
beginning when uh stephen and sherry

2138
01:21:41,110 --> 01:21:39,280
adamak his uh original i guess you could

2139
01:21:42,950 --> 01:21:41,120
call her sort of coordinator and and

2140
01:21:44,310 --> 01:21:42,960
manager of cc

2141
01:21:45,430 --> 01:21:44,320
sherry was actually a very very close

2142
01:21:48,229 --> 01:21:45,440
friend of mine

2143
01:21:51,189 --> 01:21:48,239
and back in the early 90s i invited

2144
01:21:53,990 --> 01:21:51,199
stephen down to crestone colorado where

2145
01:21:55,270 --> 01:21:54,000
he's now i think for 24 years now he's

2146
01:21:58,070 --> 01:21:55,280
every year he does one of his

2147
01:21:59,669 --> 01:21:58,080
ambassadors to the universe trainings in

2148
01:22:02,070 --> 01:21:59,679
the little town that i it turned him on

2149
01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:02,080
to back in the early 90s and i saw the

2150
01:22:07,189 --> 01:22:05,440
evolution of his protocols uh how he

2151
01:22:08,790 --> 01:22:07,199
um developed his

2152
01:22:10,950 --> 01:22:08,800
methodology

2153
01:22:14,229 --> 01:22:10,960
interesting to to note the first three

2154
01:22:16,629 --> 01:22:14,239
years uh that he was in colorado in the

2155
01:22:18,790 --> 01:22:16,639
first weekend of june doing his uh

2156
01:22:20,149 --> 01:22:18,800
sessions charging an arm and a leg for

2157
01:22:22,950 --> 01:22:20,159
them i might add

2158
01:22:25,350 --> 01:22:22,960
we had all sorts of activity all around

2159
01:22:27,350 --> 01:22:25,360
the uh the region the san luis valley

2160
01:22:28,629 --> 01:22:27,360
where the little town creststone is

2161
01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:28,639
located

2162
01:22:32,470 --> 01:22:30,320
but none of it was on the side of the

2163
01:22:35,750 --> 01:22:32,480
valley that he was on and it's almost

2164
01:22:37,990 --> 01:22:35,760
like he he had given um he'd send out a

2165
01:22:40,390 --> 01:22:38,000
request for contact and forgotten to

2166
01:22:42,550 --> 01:22:40,400
give precise directions

2167
01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:42,560
on where they should go because we had

2168
01:22:46,470 --> 01:22:44,800
reports coming in i swear to god those

2169
01:22:49,350 --> 01:22:46,480
first three years we had reports coming

2170
01:22:51,669 --> 01:22:49,360
in of unusual aerial activity

2171
01:22:53,350 --> 01:22:51,679
but none of it within 50 60 miles of

2172
01:22:55,270 --> 01:22:53,360
where greer was actually

2173
01:22:57,270 --> 01:22:55,280
coherent thought sequencing and

2174
01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:57,280
broadcasting his um

2175
01:23:01,669 --> 01:22:59,120
those cuckoo sounds that he plays that

2176
01:23:04,149 --> 01:23:01,679
were recorded in crop circle

2177
01:23:07,750 --> 01:23:04,159
so uh you know there is something to the

2178
01:23:09,830 --> 01:23:07,760
idea of eliciting some form of um

2179
01:23:12,629 --> 01:23:09,840
communication or contact

2180
01:23:13,590 --> 01:23:12,639
what is being contacted i i absolutely

2181
01:23:16,390 --> 01:23:13,600
uh

2182
01:23:17,430 --> 01:23:16,400
i i don't agree with careers analysis

2183
01:23:20,149 --> 01:23:17,440
that uh

2184
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that benevolent space brothers from uh

2185
01:23:24,629 --> 01:23:22,719
other star systems are are coming here

2186
01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:24,639
at the behest of uh

2187
01:23:28,950 --> 01:23:27,040
of the good doctor and his uh minions i

2188
01:23:30,950 --> 01:23:28,960
i don't for uh a second think that

2189
01:23:33,030 --> 01:23:30,960
that's what's going on i i'm

2190
01:23:35,910 --> 01:23:33,040
more prone to think that it's something

2191
01:23:37,270 --> 01:23:35,920
a lot closer to home you know people

2192
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:37,280
often accuse me of being the guy that

2193
01:23:40,709 --> 01:23:39,120
believes in aliens and in my stock

2194
01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:40,719
answers well wait a minute how do you

2195
01:23:44,390 --> 01:23:42,159
know we're not the aliens and they're

2196
01:23:46,870 --> 01:23:44,400
more terrestrial than we are so you know

2197
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when i at the beginning of our show here

2198
01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:48,800
when you mentioned all the various

2199
01:23:53,110 --> 01:23:51,040
possibilities that we could be dealing

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with here um i was gratified to hear

2201
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that uh you have an open mind and that

2202
01:23:59,430 --> 01:23:57,360
you haven't been totally indoctrinated

2203
01:24:02,310 --> 01:23:59,440
like most people actually um

2204
01:24:04,229 --> 01:24:02,320
that uh these are all well that's true

2205
01:24:05,189 --> 01:24:04,239
well no you're right the only in my

2206
01:24:07,270 --> 01:24:05,199
opinion

2207
01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:07,280
the only responsible

2208
01:24:10,149 --> 01:24:08,400
credible

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01:24:13,270 --> 01:24:10,159
position to have

2210
01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:13,280
as it relates to this as it relates to

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01:24:17,030 --> 01:24:15,520
god as it relates to all the big

2212
01:24:19,430 --> 01:24:17,040
questions is

2213
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i don't know but i would love to find

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01:24:21,830 --> 01:24:20,159
out

2215
01:24:24,629 --> 01:24:21,840
that's really all there is to it and

2216
01:24:26,709 --> 01:24:24,639
that's why i stay away there is factual

2217
01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:26,719
information this happened this was

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01:24:30,870 --> 01:24:28,960
observed here are the coordinates where

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this hat there is factual information

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available on the public domain for sure

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but all the narrative to try to explain

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01:24:39,750 --> 01:24:38,000
what it is why they're here that leads

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into these conspiracies which is an

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01:24:43,750 --> 01:24:41,760
interesting segue actually that's one of

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the things that i can speak on with some

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01:24:48,390 --> 01:24:45,199
authority is

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01:24:51,270 --> 01:24:48,400
the federal government's role in this is

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01:24:52,790 --> 01:24:51,280
blown way out of proportion and and i

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01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:52,800
can tell you that

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with absolute authority i

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01:25:00,470 --> 01:24:56,960
just like any

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01:25:01,510 --> 01:25:00,480
organization any country any community

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01:25:03,430 --> 01:25:01,520
okay

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01:25:05,910 --> 01:25:03,440
are there individuals that are i mean

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01:25:07,030 --> 01:25:05,920
even in ufology right there are people

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01:25:09,430 --> 01:25:07,040
out there

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01:25:12,790 --> 01:25:09,440
who have their own self-interest have a

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01:25:15,189 --> 01:25:12,800
personal agenda and try to steer policy

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01:25:17,830 --> 01:25:15,199
and do things that are going to

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satisfy their own personal objective

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01:25:22,709 --> 01:25:19,840
absolutely there's corruption everywhere

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01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:22,719
absolutely i just don't think that in

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01:25:27,110 --> 01:25:24,639
fact i know that there's this is not an

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01:25:29,990 --> 01:25:27,120
overarching government controlled you

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01:25:32,870 --> 01:25:30,000
know malicious conspiracy going on here

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01:25:34,870 --> 01:25:32,880
i mean there's really good reasons

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01:25:35,750 --> 01:25:34,880
that i support

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01:25:38,390 --> 01:25:35,760
for

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01:25:39,990 --> 01:25:38,400
not making some of the technology and

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01:25:42,070 --> 01:25:40,000
some of these findings available on the

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01:25:43,030 --> 01:25:42,080
public domain there's some really good

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01:25:46,790 --> 01:25:43,040
reasons

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01:25:48,070 --> 01:25:46,800
uh one is you know is

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01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:48,080
people have

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01:25:53,430 --> 01:25:50,320
evaluated and studied some of these

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01:25:54,709 --> 01:25:53,440
power sources a lot of this stuff is

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01:25:56,950 --> 01:25:54,719
abundant

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01:25:58,470 --> 01:25:56,960
uh power that's available

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01:26:00,550 --> 01:25:58,480
everywhere it's not like

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01:26:02,550 --> 01:26:00,560
you know weapons grade uranium which we

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01:26:03,830 --> 01:26:02,560
can keep pretty close tabs on right you

2262
01:26:05,270 --> 01:26:03,840
can't just pick that stuff up because

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01:26:06,470 --> 01:26:05,280
you want it we're not too worried about

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01:26:08,950 --> 01:26:06,480
a terrorist

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01:26:10,310 --> 01:26:08,960
getting their hands on it but some of

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01:26:12,149 --> 01:26:10,320
these other

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01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:12,159
energy sources are really abundant if

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01:26:17,590 --> 01:26:14,800
that technology was available i'm sure

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01:26:19,830 --> 01:26:17,600
that most people would use it for for

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01:26:22,390 --> 01:26:19,840
good reasons but there are some people

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01:26:25,669 --> 01:26:22,400
that would use it and could be

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01:26:28,310 --> 01:26:25,679
catastrophic the other thing is is

2273
01:26:31,830 --> 01:26:28,320
this idea that you know oil companies

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01:26:34,390 --> 01:26:31,840
and you know in you know these

2275
01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:37,030
members of the industry are are you know

2276
01:26:40,870 --> 01:26:39,040
trying to suppress

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01:26:43,350 --> 01:26:40,880
certain technologies because they want

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01:26:46,310 --> 01:26:43,360
to hold on to their monopolies

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01:26:47,750 --> 01:26:46,320
people who subscribe to that

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01:26:48,830 --> 01:26:47,760
um

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01:26:51,830 --> 01:26:48,840
just don't

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01:26:53,110 --> 01:26:51,840
understand business don't understand the

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01:26:58,629 --> 01:26:53,120
the

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01:27:00,709 --> 01:26:58,639
give is if i were to hand you a

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01:27:02,310 --> 01:27:00,719
smartphone from today

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01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:02,320
30 years ago

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01:27:06,550 --> 01:27:04,560
okay you would look at it and that

2288
01:27:08,870 --> 01:27:06,560
technology might be neat to look at but

2289
01:27:09,990 --> 01:27:08,880
would have absolutely no place in your

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01:27:11,590 --> 01:27:10,000
life

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01:27:14,470 --> 01:27:11,600
the only way a technology like that

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01:27:15,910 --> 01:27:14,480
would be appreciated and could uh you

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01:27:20,070 --> 01:27:15,920
know

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01:27:21,189 --> 01:27:20,080
of all of our lives is you have to

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01:27:22,550 --> 01:27:21,199
slowly

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01:27:26,149 --> 01:27:22,560
train people

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and and reset the mindset so that people

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01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:28,480
develop a lifestyle that can appreciate

2299
01:27:32,790 --> 01:27:30,080
these technologies that's why they're

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01:27:35,270 --> 01:27:32,800
released in small iterations leading up

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01:27:36,870 --> 01:27:35,280
to our full potential it's not because

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01:27:39,110 --> 01:27:36,880
companies are trying to you know boost

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01:27:41,189 --> 01:27:39,120
their profits and and do all that stuff

2304
01:27:42,310 --> 01:27:41,199
that's just not accurate so when you

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01:27:43,990 --> 01:27:42,320
think about

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01:27:46,470 --> 01:27:44,000
we have real problems and a lot of

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01:27:48,629 --> 01:27:46,480
problems do relate to

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01:27:51,430 --> 01:27:48,639
our consumption of fossil fuels there's

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01:27:54,149 --> 01:27:51,440
no question but to just suggest

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01:27:56,790 --> 01:27:54,159
that you could go from fossil fuels to

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01:27:59,430 --> 01:27:56,800
something that's as advanced as you know

2312
01:28:01,270 --> 01:27:59,440
zero point energy as an example is just

2313
01:28:03,590 --> 01:28:01,280
naive you just don't understand how that

2314
01:28:04,950 --> 01:28:03,600
works that would not be the way to do it

2315
01:28:06,709 --> 01:28:04,960
and and so there's a lot of

2316
01:28:08,950 --> 01:28:06,719
misperception and i

2317
01:28:09,990 --> 01:28:08,960
i know a lot of good people i've worked

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01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:10,000
with

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01:28:12,550 --> 01:28:11,120
honorable

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01:28:15,669 --> 01:28:12,560
super smart

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01:28:17,430 --> 01:28:15,679
uh people at high levels of government

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01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:17,440
and

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01:28:21,430 --> 01:28:19,840
to lump them into this you know

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01:28:23,910 --> 01:28:21,440
universal

2325
01:28:26,709 --> 01:28:23,920
government conspiracy to

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01:28:28,870 --> 01:28:26,719
uh you know to suppress technologies

2327
01:28:31,110 --> 01:28:28,880
hurt people and enslave people i mean

2328
01:28:32,550 --> 01:28:31,120
it's just it's just not true i've not

2329
01:28:34,550 --> 01:28:32,560
seen any evidence not to say that

2330
01:28:37,830 --> 01:28:34,560
there's not bad people out there

2331
01:28:40,629 --> 01:28:37,840
and sometimes bad people can

2332
01:28:42,550 --> 01:28:40,639
implement policy and do things that are

2333
01:28:44,550 --> 01:28:42,560
not great for the masses there's no

2334
01:28:45,270 --> 01:28:44,560
question that happens but it's just not

2335
01:28:50,629 --> 01:28:45,280
as

2336
01:28:52,950 --> 01:28:50,639
internet would have you believe and i

2337
01:28:55,430 --> 01:28:52,960
think conspiracy to

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01:28:59,030 --> 01:28:55,440
ring every drop of of internal

2339
01:29:01,189 --> 01:28:59,040
combustion fossil fuel uh technology uh

2340
01:29:03,510 --> 01:29:01,199
to ring every dime and nickel and penny

2341
01:29:05,990 --> 01:29:03,520
out of the pockets of the free world

2342
01:29:07,830 --> 01:29:06,000
before we do graduate to sustainability

2343
01:29:09,030 --> 01:29:07,840
and and renewable

2344
01:29:11,750 --> 01:29:09,040
energy and

2345
01:29:13,430 --> 01:29:11,760
hydrogen oh yeah and other technologies

2346
01:29:15,430 --> 01:29:13,440
there definitely has a conspiracy to do

2347
01:29:18,149 --> 01:29:15,440
that i mean just look at one morning

2348
01:29:19,830 --> 01:29:18,159
iraqis being killed over uh six of the

2349
01:29:21,350 --> 01:29:19,840
world's oil or whatever

2350
01:29:23,669 --> 01:29:21,360
there's well there's no question that

2351
01:29:25,350 --> 01:29:23,679
that that is true but that has more to

2352
01:29:27,270 --> 01:29:25,360
do with

2353
01:29:29,830 --> 01:29:27,280
and and i don't necessarily agree with

2354
01:29:32,470 --> 01:29:29,840
it but our government is trying to

2355
01:29:34,149 --> 01:29:32,480
assure its influence in the world and

2356
01:29:35,830 --> 01:29:34,159
when they you know unfortunately the

2357
01:29:37,910 --> 01:29:35,840
execution of that

2358
01:29:39,830 --> 01:29:37,920
long term it's for our own interest and

2359
01:29:41,990 --> 01:29:39,840
to ensure that chaos

2360
01:29:44,629 --> 01:29:42,000
can't break out they want to assure that

2361
01:29:47,270 --> 01:29:44,639
world war ii doesn't happen ever again

2362
01:29:49,430 --> 01:29:47,280
so america has spent its time its

2363
01:29:52,229 --> 01:29:49,440
strategy has been to

2364
01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:52,239
assure and shore up our influence in

2365
01:29:56,629 --> 01:29:54,239
every country in the world so that that

2366
01:29:58,950 --> 01:29:56,639
never happens again now the process of

2367
01:30:01,590 --> 01:29:58,960
doing that is sometimes very ugly

2368
01:30:03,350 --> 01:30:01,600
there's no question

2369
01:30:05,030 --> 01:30:03,360
a lot of bad things happen

2370
01:30:06,550 --> 01:30:05,040
there's no question but i'm just saying

2371
01:30:08,790 --> 01:30:06,560
my point is this

2372
01:30:11,910 --> 01:30:08,800
there are partners there are good people

2373
01:30:13,270 --> 01:30:11,920
there are organizations and agencies

2374
01:30:15,350 --> 01:30:13,280
within the government

2375
01:30:17,110 --> 01:30:15,360
who i've partnered with

2376
01:30:19,030 --> 01:30:17,120
who are trying to do

2377
01:30:21,350 --> 01:30:19,040
good work who

2378
01:30:23,430 --> 01:30:21,360
have done a number of things to help the

2379
01:30:24,790 --> 01:30:23,440
proliferation of technologies that have

2380
01:30:26,709 --> 01:30:24,800
made people's lives easier a lot of

2381
01:30:29,030 --> 01:30:26,719
people don't realize this a lot of the

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01:30:30,229 --> 01:30:29,040
the coolest stuff you see

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01:30:31,750 --> 01:30:30,239
started

2384
01:30:34,229 --> 01:30:31,760
in the military or in the government at

2385
01:30:37,590 --> 01:30:34,239
some point before it became available to

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grace's voice is starting to

2498
01:35:23,189 --> 01:35:21,600
take on all sorts of strange frequencies

2499
01:35:24,070 --> 01:35:23,199
some of which can't be heard by human

2500
01:35:26,229 --> 01:35:24,080
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2501
01:35:28,070 --> 01:35:26,239
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2511
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2513
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2514
01:36:00,709 --> 01:35:54,400
or

2515
01:36:03,750 --> 01:36:00,719
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2516
01:36:09,030 --> 01:36:06,310
sean korea is responsible for anonymous

2517
01:36:10,950 --> 01:36:09,040
uprising and we're talking here about

2518
01:36:13,270 --> 01:36:10,960
technology and advancement and

2519
01:36:15,030 --> 01:36:13,280
everything let me ask you about

2520
01:36:17,030 --> 01:36:15,040
specifically here

2521
01:36:18,709 --> 01:36:17,040
about ufos do you think the government

2522
01:36:19,669 --> 01:36:18,719
is engaged in a conspiracy any

2523
01:36:22,550 --> 01:36:19,679
government

2524
01:36:24,149 --> 01:36:22,560
to hide the truth about ufos

2525
01:36:26,470 --> 01:36:24,159
i think well i know that there's

2526
01:36:29,430 --> 01:36:26,480
conflicting interests there's different

2527
01:36:31,430 --> 01:36:29,440
groups that it's very divided in a lot

2528
01:36:33,830 --> 01:36:31,440
of these big issues relative to what

2529
01:36:35,910 --> 01:36:33,840
should be

2530
01:36:38,550 --> 01:36:35,920
disclosed to the public how the

2531
01:36:40,390 --> 01:36:38,560
information should be disclosed

2532
01:36:42,950 --> 01:36:40,400
what what's the next step because it's

2533
01:36:44,629 --> 01:36:42,960
not just about coming clean and telling

2534
01:36:45,990 --> 01:36:44,639
the public that we're aware of this

2535
01:36:47,669 --> 01:36:46,000
we've been studying it we've been

2536
01:36:49,510 --> 01:36:47,679
engaging it for several years there's

2537
01:36:52,229 --> 01:36:49,520
more to it than that because after they

2538
01:36:53,109 --> 01:36:52,239
do that what's the next step so i think

2539
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:53,119
that

2540
01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:56,560
there is you know every 10 years there's

2541
01:37:00,390 --> 01:36:59,199
more and more consensus towards some

2542
01:37:01,990 --> 01:37:00,400
kind of

2543
01:37:05,189 --> 01:37:02,000
compartmentalized

2544
01:37:07,830 --> 01:37:05,199
disclosure over time to

2545
01:37:10,070 --> 01:37:07,840
bring you know a lot of this forward um

2546
01:37:11,109 --> 01:37:10,080
i know that because

2547
01:37:13,270 --> 01:37:11,119
you know

2548
01:37:15,109 --> 01:37:13,280
there are uh from a technology

2549
01:37:16,470 --> 01:37:15,119
perspective projects i've been a part of

2550
01:37:18,470 --> 01:37:16,480
for example

2551
01:37:21,030 --> 01:37:18,480
the government spends a lot of money on

2552
01:37:22,229 --> 01:37:21,040
on seeing if it can be something with

2553
01:37:23,590 --> 01:37:22,239
technology

2554
01:37:26,629 --> 01:37:23,600
once they've

2555
01:37:28,149 --> 01:37:26,639
gotten uh and realized that they can or

2556
01:37:30,709 --> 01:37:28,159
something works

2557
01:37:33,030 --> 01:37:30,719
how that is used and and with the

2558
01:37:35,590 --> 01:37:33,040
applications is an area where there's a

2559
01:37:39,109 --> 01:37:35,600
lot of debate and a lot of disagreement

2560
01:37:41,750 --> 01:37:39,119
um you know in my case the question is

2561
01:37:43,669 --> 01:37:41,760
always should this be

2562
01:37:46,629 --> 01:37:43,679
should this be installed or applied as a

2563
01:37:49,189 --> 01:37:46,639
defense system should it be

2564
01:37:51,910 --> 01:37:49,199
weaponized as an uh offensive based

2565
01:37:53,830 --> 01:37:51,920
system who's gonna pay for a lot of that

2566
01:37:56,229 --> 01:37:53,840
there's enormous disagreement about that

2567
01:37:57,590 --> 01:37:56,239
and that changes of course with every

2568
01:38:00,149 --> 01:37:57,600
uh new president every new

2569
01:38:01,750 --> 01:38:00,159
administration that that changes so

2570
01:38:02,950 --> 01:38:01,760
as it relates to this subject matter i

2571
01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:02,960
think there

2572
01:38:07,030 --> 01:38:05,040
are scientists that are genuinely trying

2573
01:38:08,070 --> 01:38:07,040
to solve some of our biggest problems

2574
01:38:09,910 --> 01:38:08,080
and

2575
01:38:12,229 --> 01:38:09,920
this is a

2576
01:38:13,189 --> 01:38:12,239
you know what they've been able to

2577
01:38:15,149 --> 01:38:13,199
um

2578
01:38:17,109 --> 01:38:15,159
learn from

2579
01:38:19,030 --> 01:38:17,119
extraterrestrials and the technology

2580
01:38:21,270 --> 01:38:19,040
that they've been able to reverse

2581
01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:21,280
engineer and work on has certainly been

2582
01:38:24,470 --> 01:38:23,760
a contributor to some of these things

2583
01:38:26,870 --> 01:38:24,480
the

2584
01:38:29,109 --> 01:38:26,880
how it should be applied unfortunately

2585
01:38:31,030 --> 01:38:29,119
is up to some completely different and

2586
01:38:33,109 --> 01:38:31,040
there's definitely some disagreement and

2587
01:38:35,590 --> 01:38:33,119
most of this is really controlled people

2588
01:38:37,350 --> 01:38:35,600
don't recognize or don't understand that

2589
01:38:39,189 --> 01:38:37,360
a lot of the agencies

2590
01:38:40,550 --> 01:38:39,199
within the government that work on this

2591
01:38:43,669 --> 01:38:40,560
stuff are

2592
01:38:46,709 --> 01:38:43,679
without or without any kind of judicial

2593
01:38:48,310 --> 01:38:46,719
legislative or executive oversight

2594
01:38:50,390 --> 01:38:48,320
at all so

2595
01:38:51,830 --> 01:38:50,400
it doesn't really matter you know who's

2596
01:38:54,870 --> 01:38:51,840
in the white house it doesn't really

2597
01:38:56,149 --> 01:38:54,880
matter which party controls uh the house

2598
01:38:59,189 --> 01:38:56,159
of representatives it doesn't really

2599
01:39:00,629 --> 01:38:59,199
matter because they don't they're basic

2600
01:39:03,030 --> 01:39:00,639
they're autonomous they they have their

2601
01:39:05,750 --> 01:39:03,040
own own budgets they have their own

2602
01:39:08,070 --> 01:39:05,760
agenda and you know

2603
01:39:10,870 --> 01:39:08,080
really don't have any direct oversight

2604
01:39:13,590 --> 01:39:10,880
from any any branch of government and a

2605
01:39:15,510 --> 01:39:13,600
lot of people don't realize that so

2606
01:39:18,070 --> 01:39:15,520
i i don't think

2607
01:39:20,950 --> 01:39:18,080
again i'll go back to there are

2608
01:39:21,910 --> 01:39:20,960
individuals and there are groups that

2609
01:39:24,149 --> 01:39:21,920
have

2610
01:39:25,510 --> 01:39:24,159
you know their own agenda and sometimes

2611
01:39:29,270 --> 01:39:25,520
that can

2612
01:39:30,950 --> 01:39:29,280
be very can be harmful and it can uh it

2613
01:39:32,470 --> 01:39:30,960
really

2614
01:39:34,229 --> 01:39:32,480
it makes it challenging for the

2615
01:39:35,430 --> 01:39:34,239
government to remain credible when those

2616
01:39:37,830 --> 01:39:35,440
things happen

2617
01:39:41,270 --> 01:39:37,840
but i would say overall

2618
01:39:42,870 --> 01:39:41,280
this is not a succinct coordinated

2619
01:39:44,790 --> 01:39:42,880
um

2620
01:39:47,669 --> 01:39:44,800
conspiracy to

2621
01:39:49,510 --> 01:39:47,679
you know for mass control i just it's

2622
01:39:51,590 --> 01:39:49,520
i've not seen anything i would suggest

2623
01:39:53,109 --> 01:39:51,600
that and it's kind of a a lot of the

2624
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:53,119
people that have been

2625
01:39:59,270 --> 01:39:56,639
implicated or been

2626
01:40:01,270 --> 01:39:59,280
identified to be you know responsible

2627
01:40:03,990 --> 01:40:01,280
for some of those for example a number

2628
01:40:05,350 --> 01:40:04,000
of cia is a huge target on its back the

2629
01:40:07,510 --> 01:40:05,360
cia

2630
01:40:09,030 --> 01:40:07,520
is is been front and center as it

2631
01:40:10,550 --> 01:40:09,040
relates to this

2632
01:40:12,709 --> 01:40:10,560
this uh

2633
01:40:14,550 --> 01:40:12,719
this topic and

2634
01:40:15,910 --> 01:40:14,560
you know there are a lot of good people

2635
01:40:17,270 --> 01:40:15,920
um

2636
01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:17,280
that work

2637
01:40:20,229 --> 01:40:19,440
in our intelligence agencies that you

2638
01:40:21,510 --> 01:40:20,239
know

2639
01:40:24,229 --> 01:40:21,520
are doing

2640
01:40:25,270 --> 01:40:24,239
good work that kind of get lumped in and

2641
01:40:27,270 --> 01:40:25,280
you know i don't really think that's

2642
01:40:29,109 --> 01:40:27,280
fair or really accurate you mentioned

2643
01:40:30,310 --> 01:40:29,119
several times uh just as a matter of

2644
01:40:32,070 --> 01:40:30,320
fact uh

2645
01:40:33,750 --> 01:40:32,080
that we're back engineering alien

2646
01:40:36,950 --> 01:40:33,760
technology how do you know this and and

2647
01:40:39,590 --> 01:40:36,960
where do where do you uh

2648
01:40:43,189 --> 01:40:39,600
where do you get that information

2649
01:40:44,149 --> 01:40:43,199
well my personal experience is

2650
01:40:47,270 --> 01:40:44,159
when we

2651
01:40:49,350 --> 01:40:47,280
when project failing started

2652
01:40:50,629 --> 01:40:49,360
we were told that we were

2653
01:40:52,310 --> 01:40:50,639
trying to

2654
01:40:54,149 --> 01:40:52,320
create a system

2655
01:40:55,590 --> 01:40:54,159
that would allow us to

2656
01:40:56,550 --> 01:40:55,600
bring down

2657
01:40:58,950 --> 01:40:56,560
um

2658
01:41:00,310 --> 01:40:58,960
enemy drones that were

2659
01:41:04,950 --> 01:41:00,320
you know

2660
01:41:07,669 --> 01:41:04,960
doing so without

2661
01:41:09,750 --> 01:41:07,679
damaging the craft so we were brought in

2662
01:41:10,950 --> 01:41:09,760
our project team was brought a number of

2663
01:41:12,390 --> 01:41:10,960
different

2664
01:41:15,430 --> 01:41:12,400
um

2665
01:41:16,149 --> 01:41:15,440
you know wireless avionic boards

2666
01:41:21,910 --> 01:41:16,159
to

2667
01:41:25,430 --> 01:41:21,920
one of those boards

2668
01:41:28,310 --> 01:41:25,440
was was made from material using

2669
01:41:30,229 --> 01:41:28,320
circuitry that i that neither myself or

2670
01:41:31,910 --> 01:41:30,239
anybody on my team again i'll reiterate

2671
01:41:34,070 --> 01:41:31,920
i'm more of a project manager not a

2672
01:41:36,149 --> 01:41:34,080
practitioner

2673
01:41:37,910 --> 01:41:36,159
so i'm not doing any bench work but the

2674
01:41:39,590 --> 01:41:37,920
people that are reported to me is

2675
01:41:41,590 --> 01:41:39,600
related to this project and i'm driving

2676
01:41:42,790 --> 01:41:41,600
strategy and the project going forward

2677
01:41:44,229 --> 01:41:42,800
but

2678
01:41:46,470 --> 01:41:44,239
we've seen

2679
01:41:49,109 --> 01:41:46,480
boards that

2680
01:41:50,390 --> 01:41:49,119
we couldn't identify and you know we of

2681
01:41:52,870 --> 01:41:50,400
course have had

2682
01:41:55,350 --> 01:41:52,880
exposure to the latest in wireless

2683
01:41:57,510 --> 01:41:55,360
avionics and had never seen anything

2684
01:41:58,470 --> 01:41:57,520
like what they were working with and

2685
01:41:59,590 --> 01:41:58,480
the

2686
01:42:02,790 --> 01:41:59,600
um

2687
01:42:05,830 --> 01:42:02,800
the boards seem to interact without any

2688
01:42:07,109 --> 01:42:05,840
power source seem to interact with

2689
01:42:10,070 --> 01:42:07,119
um

2690
01:42:12,229 --> 01:42:10,080
by touch you could touch them and

2691
01:42:13,990 --> 01:42:12,239
the minimal output that comes you know

2692
01:42:15,750 --> 01:42:14,000
that that is generated from the human

2693
01:42:17,990 --> 01:42:15,760
body was able to

2694
01:42:20,310 --> 01:42:18,000
um enable the

2695
01:42:22,470 --> 01:42:20,320
the board to function which is which is

2696
01:42:23,990 --> 01:42:22,480
remarkable we hadn't seen that in most

2697
01:42:26,790 --> 01:42:24,000
cases depending on what you're working

2698
01:42:28,310 --> 01:42:26,800
on that can actually be harmful to the

2699
01:42:30,390 --> 01:42:28,320
electronics because some of this stuff

2700
01:42:32,790 --> 01:42:30,400
is really really sensitive but that was

2701
01:42:35,030 --> 01:42:32,800
not the case so i i've seen

2702
01:42:35,830 --> 01:42:35,040
and and the people that i've worked with

2703
01:42:36,790 --> 01:42:35,840
um

2704
01:42:39,350 --> 01:42:36,800
who

2705
01:42:41,270 --> 01:42:39,360
knew a little bit more than we did um

2706
01:42:42,950 --> 01:42:41,280
you know we're maybe two tiers above us

2707
01:42:44,709 --> 01:42:42,960
in terms of the level of

2708
01:42:46,950 --> 01:42:44,719
compartmentalization of kind of wink

2709
01:42:48,550 --> 01:42:46,960
wink nudge nudge that where did this

2710
01:42:50,790 --> 01:42:48,560
come from well

2711
01:42:51,750 --> 01:42:50,800
you know i was told it didn't come from

2712
01:42:54,070 --> 01:42:51,760
any

2713
01:42:56,870 --> 01:42:54,080
current uh uh

2714
01:42:58,870 --> 01:42:56,880
adversaries and um and just kind of left

2715
01:43:01,750 --> 01:42:58,880
it at that but i kind of

2716
01:43:02,950 --> 01:43:01,760
so you and your team have actually seen

2717
01:43:07,590 --> 01:43:02,960
uh

2718
01:43:09,350 --> 01:43:07,600
the form of

2719
01:43:11,189 --> 01:43:09,360
what sort of like circuit boards or

2720
01:43:13,270 --> 01:43:11,199
something similar to yes

2721
01:43:15,910 --> 01:43:13,280
yeah it's the the

2722
01:43:17,669 --> 01:43:15,920
avionics system which effectively

2723
01:43:19,189 --> 01:43:17,679
controls

2724
01:43:21,430 --> 01:43:19,199
most of the

2725
01:43:23,270 --> 01:43:21,440
systems in

2726
01:43:26,629 --> 01:43:23,280
in the you know

2727
01:43:30,629 --> 01:43:28,470
with their small you know pathways like

2728
01:43:32,709 --> 01:43:30,639
on a regular circuit board where you

2729
01:43:34,709 --> 01:43:32,719
have electronic pathways and

2730
01:43:38,790 --> 01:43:34,719
were there parts or was it all just

2731
01:43:40,629 --> 01:43:38,800
streamlined right well there was this

2732
01:43:43,189 --> 01:43:40,639
the best i could describe i don't have a

2733
01:43:44,310 --> 01:43:43,199
name but the the circuitry so what what

2734
01:43:46,709 --> 01:43:44,320
you know the

2735
01:43:48,470 --> 01:43:46,719
conductors inside embedded in the boards

2736
01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:48,480
it looked like they

2737
01:43:57,030 --> 01:43:49,600
um

2738
01:43:59,030 --> 01:43:57,040
you know like fiber optics it was a this

2739
01:44:02,790 --> 01:43:59,040
what i can describe is this

2740
01:44:04,470 --> 01:44:02,800
crystallized material um

2741
01:44:06,390 --> 01:44:04,480
it almost look i guess the best way to

2742
01:44:09,830 --> 01:44:06,400
describe it if you took a

2743
01:44:11,830 --> 01:44:09,840
a piece of you know transparent

2744
01:44:13,430 --> 01:44:11,840
fiberglass and

2745
01:44:15,669 --> 01:44:13,440
you created

2746
01:44:17,669 --> 01:44:15,679
grooves in that fiberglass and then you

2747
01:44:19,350 --> 01:44:17,679
put you know

2748
01:44:20,470 --> 01:44:19,360
like glitter

2749
01:44:21,830 --> 01:44:20,480
um

2750
01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:21,840
really dense

2751
01:44:25,669 --> 01:44:23,840
you know glitter inside those grooves

2752
01:44:27,669 --> 01:44:25,679
that's what it looked like and we've

2753
01:44:29,430 --> 01:44:27,679
never seen anything like it so you're

2754
01:44:30,870 --> 01:44:29,440
assuming here you're going to remove

2755
01:44:31,830 --> 01:44:30,880
you're scanning the board i have to cut

2756
01:44:33,590 --> 01:44:31,840
it short because we're running out of

2757
01:44:36,310 --> 01:44:33,600
time for this segment we'll go on to the

2758
01:44:38,870 --> 01:44:36,320
next segment you're assuming then

2759
01:44:40,470 --> 01:44:38,880
that based on what you're observing

2760
01:44:42,390 --> 01:44:40,480
and your experience and knowledge that

2761
01:44:44,629 --> 01:44:42,400
this is not something that we developed

2762
01:44:46,470 --> 01:44:44,639
in our own laboratories it might be

2763
01:44:49,750 --> 01:44:46,480
something we reverse engineered from

2764
01:44:52,149 --> 01:44:49,760
perhaps the wreckage of a spacecraft of

2765
01:44:53,669 --> 01:44:52,159
some sort and we're going to ask you and

2766
01:44:55,910 --> 01:44:53,679
perhaps we can start answering that in

2767
01:44:57,750 --> 01:44:55,920
our next segment where did that come

2768
01:44:59,910 --> 01:44:57,760
from is that the supposed crash at

2769
01:45:03,109 --> 01:44:59,920
roswell new mexico was it a crash

2770
01:45:04,470 --> 01:45:03,119
anywhere was it aliens exchanging their

2771
01:45:06,070 --> 01:45:04,480
technology

2772
01:45:08,070 --> 01:45:06,080
with earthlings there are a lot of

2773
01:45:10,149 --> 01:45:08,080
possibilities here and it'd be nice to

2774
01:45:12,070 --> 01:45:10,159
continue to explore them

2775
01:45:13,669 --> 01:45:12,080
we have sean correa

2776
01:45:15,189 --> 01:45:13,679
he is the

2777
01:45:17,750 --> 01:45:15,199
head of a

2778
01:45:20,229 --> 01:45:17,760
anonymous uprising which is a project to

2779
01:45:21,590 --> 01:45:20,239
establish first contact but as you see

2780
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there's a lot more involved than we're

2781
01:45:25,990 --> 01:45:23,600
trying to trace the background

2782
01:45:27,590 --> 01:45:26,000
of what he knows and has experienced

2783
01:45:29,510 --> 01:45:27,600
to understand it

2784
01:45:38,390 --> 01:45:29,520
still further with gina and chris you're

2785
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[Applause]

2846
01:48:03,350 --> 01:47:59,669
welcome back to the paracast the gold

2847
01:48:04,629 --> 01:48:03,360
standard of paranormal radio

2848
01:48:07,910 --> 01:48:04,639
and now

2849
01:48:11,669 --> 01:48:07,920
here's jane steinberg

2850
01:48:16,070 --> 01:48:14,709
so shawn korea my question here you're

2851
01:48:17,990 --> 01:48:16,080
assuming here that there's no

2852
01:48:20,149 --> 01:48:18,000
possibility that any of the stuff you've

2853
01:48:22,390 --> 01:48:20,159
seen this miraculous

2854
01:48:23,430 --> 01:48:22,400
technology could have emerged from our

2855
01:48:26,709 --> 01:48:23,440
own

2856
01:48:28,629 --> 01:48:26,719
engineers and scientists without help

2857
01:48:30,629 --> 01:48:28,639
here's what i can say i can't say with

2858
01:48:32,550 --> 01:48:30,639
absolute certainty because

2859
01:48:35,430 --> 01:48:32,560
there's always a possibility that's not

2860
01:48:36,950 --> 01:48:35,440
the case however i don't see

2861
01:48:38,629 --> 01:48:36,960
none of my practitioners that were

2862
01:48:41,669 --> 01:48:38,639
working on this could

2863
01:48:43,030 --> 01:48:41,679
identify he had seen any tooling or

2864
01:48:45,270 --> 01:48:43,040
machining that would have or any

2865
01:48:46,790 --> 01:48:45,280
fabrication techniques or technology

2866
01:48:47,910 --> 01:48:46,800
available

2867
01:48:50,550 --> 01:48:47,920
that could have

2868
01:48:52,390 --> 01:48:50,560
manufactured these components and

2869
01:48:54,950 --> 01:48:52,400
assembled them the way that we received

2870
01:48:57,350 --> 01:48:54,960
them number one it was the only

2871
01:48:59,669 --> 01:48:57,360
sample that we received that didn't have

2872
01:49:01,109 --> 01:48:59,679
any source data or schematics that

2873
01:49:02,310 --> 01:49:01,119
accompanied it because everything else

2874
01:49:04,790 --> 01:49:02,320
we worked on

2875
01:49:06,629 --> 01:49:04,800
had schematics had detailed information

2876
01:49:08,149 --> 01:49:06,639
had source information we even have

2877
01:49:09,510 --> 01:49:08,159
contacts that we could talk to as a

2878
01:49:11,109 --> 01:49:09,520
reference point

2879
01:49:12,790 --> 01:49:11,119
uh to get more information about what

2880
01:49:15,030 --> 01:49:12,800
we're working on from a technical

2881
01:49:17,270 --> 01:49:15,040
perspective and this had none of that

2882
01:49:18,470 --> 01:49:17,280
and you kind of put all those pieces

2883
01:49:21,590 --> 01:49:18,480
together

2884
01:49:25,270 --> 01:49:21,600
none of that is a written certified

2885
01:49:27,830 --> 01:49:25,280
confirmation of sorts per se but

2886
01:49:30,310 --> 01:49:27,840
as a betting man i would i i feel that

2887
01:49:32,950 --> 01:49:30,320
what we've concluded was on the on the

2888
01:49:35,030 --> 01:49:32,960
probable side highly probable side

2889
01:49:36,709 --> 01:49:35,040
where do you think it came from roswell

2890
01:49:39,590 --> 01:49:36,719
crash where

2891
01:49:41,430 --> 01:49:39,600
i don't know i don't i had no idea

2892
01:49:43,669 --> 01:49:41,440
because roswell

2893
01:49:46,629 --> 01:49:43,679
may have been the first of

2894
01:49:50,629 --> 01:49:46,639
hundreds of crafts we've retrieved it's

2895
01:49:51,430 --> 01:49:50,639
hard to say i i doubt it i'm i probably

2896
01:49:54,149 --> 01:49:51,440
would

2897
01:49:57,350 --> 01:49:54,159
say that it was within the last

2898
01:49:59,910 --> 01:49:57,360
15 years the only reason i say that is

2899
01:50:03,189 --> 01:49:59,920
because it just uh

2900
01:50:04,550 --> 01:50:03,199
knowing the i guess the life cycle of

2901
01:50:07,350 --> 01:50:04,560
you know when

2902
01:50:09,270 --> 01:50:07,360
material is recovered and is given to a

2903
01:50:10,390 --> 01:50:09,280
team to

2904
01:50:12,310 --> 01:50:10,400
to catalog

2905
01:50:14,709 --> 01:50:12,320
and then given to another team to try to

2906
01:50:16,709 --> 01:50:14,719
get to get it to work to better

2907
01:50:19,350 --> 01:50:16,719
understand it and give it to a team

2908
01:50:22,390 --> 01:50:19,360
to reverse engineer that life cycle at

2909
01:50:24,149 --> 01:50:22,400
best is you know five years

2910
01:50:26,709 --> 01:50:24,159
so i doubt they would be giving us

2911
01:50:27,990 --> 01:50:26,719
material that was that old and i'm

2912
01:50:30,070 --> 01:50:28,000
certain that

2913
01:50:32,149 --> 01:50:30,080
we we don't know for sure i don't think

2914
01:50:34,550 --> 01:50:32,159
any of us know when the first time our

2915
01:50:36,870 --> 01:50:34,560
government officially

2916
01:50:40,390 --> 01:50:36,880
got involved in in studying this

2917
01:50:43,910 --> 01:50:40,400
phenomena but i would imagine that

2918
01:50:47,109 --> 01:50:43,920
once they started they didn't stop or

2919
01:50:50,149 --> 01:50:47,119
reduce their efforts so they probably

2920
01:50:52,070 --> 01:50:50,159
wanted to and tried to seek out ways to

2921
01:50:53,750 --> 01:50:52,080
continue to retrieve technology and

2922
01:50:54,709 --> 01:50:53,760
better understand and get closer to this

2923
01:50:57,910 --> 01:50:54,719
i mean

2924
01:50:59,590 --> 01:50:57,920
um so my best guess i think just you

2925
01:51:00,950 --> 01:50:59,600
know based on logic based on my own

2926
01:51:03,270 --> 01:51:00,960
experience

2927
01:51:04,550 --> 01:51:03,280
on on how this stuff works and how this

2928
01:51:08,070 --> 01:51:04,560
stuff gets disseminated through the

2929
01:51:09,669 --> 01:51:08,080
various departments to analyze and to

2930
01:51:11,750 --> 01:51:09,679
to repurpose

2931
01:51:13,990 --> 01:51:11,760
i i doubt that it was

2932
01:51:16,310 --> 01:51:14,000
we were given something from the 40s

2933
01:51:18,470 --> 01:51:16,320
yeah but look at it this way too

2934
01:51:20,550 --> 01:51:18,480
say in the 1940s

2935
01:51:22,310 --> 01:51:20,560
someone brought to them an iphone

2936
01:51:24,390 --> 01:51:22,320
it's 1940

2937
01:51:26,229 --> 01:51:24,400
someone brings an iphone to them could

2938
01:51:28,390 --> 01:51:26,239
they reverse engineer that could they

2939
01:51:29,830 --> 01:51:28,400
even figure out what it is i mean

2940
01:51:32,229 --> 01:51:29,840
there's certain basics they might

2941
01:51:34,790 --> 01:51:32,239
understand like that has a battery

2942
01:51:37,030 --> 01:51:34,800
and maybe if they could still turn it on

2943
01:51:39,669 --> 01:51:37,040
they could see that this is

2944
01:51:41,430 --> 01:51:39,679
some kind of monitor or display because

2945
01:51:44,470 --> 01:51:41,440
we were in the earlier stages of

2946
01:51:46,390 --> 01:51:44,480
inventing tv that might make sense but

2947
01:51:49,350 --> 01:51:46,400
now take an invention that's a thousand

2948
01:51:51,669 --> 01:51:49,360
years ahead of us that powers a

2949
01:51:53,510 --> 01:51:51,679
spacecraft from one star system to

2950
01:51:55,030 --> 01:51:53,520
another whatever it is

2951
01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:55,040
do you really think we could reverse

2952
01:51:58,790 --> 01:51:57,119
engineer any of it

2953
01:52:00,470 --> 01:51:58,800
oh yes

2954
01:52:04,950 --> 01:52:00,480
i do

2955
01:52:07,910 --> 01:52:04,960
but

2956
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:07,920
i god there's some really smart people

2957
01:52:11,669 --> 01:52:09,840
that do this stuff

2958
01:52:14,470 --> 01:52:11,679
and i'm

2959
01:52:17,750 --> 01:52:14,480
absolutely certain that they

2960
01:52:19,910 --> 01:52:17,760
can put unlimited resources to trying to

2961
01:52:22,709 --> 01:52:19,920
figure out what it is how it works where

2962
01:52:24,310 --> 01:52:22,719
it came from and i mean you can put that

2963
01:52:26,310 --> 01:52:24,320
kind of

2964
01:52:28,790 --> 01:52:26,320
brain power and those kinds of resources

2965
01:52:31,350 --> 01:52:28,800
behind something like this

2966
01:52:33,109 --> 01:52:31,360
you know you're going to

2967
01:52:34,629 --> 01:52:33,119
you're going to have get some answers to

2968
01:52:35,510 --> 01:52:34,639
those questions you're going to be able

2969
01:52:37,910 --> 01:52:35,520
to

2970
01:52:39,430 --> 01:52:37,920
come up with some conclusions you may

2971
01:52:41,990 --> 01:52:39,440
not be able to

2972
01:52:44,629 --> 01:52:42,000
uh figure it all out but but i'm i'm

2973
01:52:46,629 --> 01:52:44,639
certain they're very very good at

2974
01:52:48,470 --> 01:52:46,639
doing this stuff when we

2975
01:52:52,070 --> 01:52:48,480
um

2976
01:52:54,550 --> 01:52:53,030
you know

2977
01:52:57,189 --> 01:52:54,560
prototype

2978
01:52:58,470 --> 01:52:57,199
systems weapon systems

2979
01:53:00,550 --> 01:52:58,480
weapons

2980
01:53:04,149 --> 01:53:00,560
aircraft

2981
01:53:06,070 --> 01:53:04,159
surveillance equipment news you know

2982
01:53:07,270 --> 01:53:06,080
you know cyber

2983
01:53:10,070 --> 01:53:07,280
uh

2984
01:53:12,470 --> 01:53:10,080
technology for you know

2985
01:53:14,950 --> 01:53:12,480
listening and intrusion

2986
01:53:16,550 --> 01:53:14,960
the process by which that's collected

2987
01:53:17,350 --> 01:53:16,560
cataloged

2988
01:53:18,950 --> 01:53:17,360
um

2989
01:53:20,870 --> 01:53:18,960
uh you know

2990
01:53:22,229 --> 01:53:20,880
reverse engineered

2991
01:53:25,030 --> 01:53:22,239
replicated

2992
01:53:28,229 --> 01:53:25,040
and and and put back into i mean it's

2993
01:53:30,550 --> 01:53:28,239
pretty quick i mean i would say

2994
01:53:32,229 --> 01:53:30,560
the timeline line that i've observed in

2995
01:53:33,510 --> 01:53:32,239
those instances and i recognize that

2996
01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:33,520
we're not talking about technology

2997
01:53:36,149 --> 01:53:34,960
that's a thousand years ahead of us

2998
01:53:38,390 --> 01:53:36,159
however

2999
01:53:40,709 --> 01:53:38,400
they're pretty good at

3000
01:53:42,629 --> 01:53:40,719
and very efficient at moving that stuff

3001
01:53:44,310 --> 01:53:42,639
through the system and

3002
01:53:47,430 --> 01:53:44,320
making some use out of it and and

3003
01:53:49,030 --> 01:53:47,440
they've got you know access to

3004
01:53:50,310 --> 01:53:49,040
i mean the brightest minds in the world

3005
01:53:52,390 --> 01:53:50,320
i mean it's just a matter of a phone

3006
01:53:54,550 --> 01:53:52,400
call and they've got massive budgets i

3007
01:53:56,709 --> 01:53:54,560
mean they you'd be surprised what they

3008
01:53:58,470 --> 01:53:56,719
are capable of doing and

3009
01:54:02,149 --> 01:53:58,480
generally speaking you got to remember

3010
01:54:07,510 --> 01:54:04,950
our military space command

3011
01:54:10,149 --> 01:54:07,520
the technology that they have is

3012
01:54:12,470 --> 01:54:10,159
30 40 years ahead of you know what's

3013
01:54:13,430 --> 01:54:12,480
available in the commercial and private

3014
01:54:14,950 --> 01:54:13,440
sector

3015
01:54:16,790 --> 01:54:14,960
so

3016
01:54:19,589 --> 01:54:16,800
you got to try to imagine it from that

3017
01:54:21,510 --> 01:54:19,599
perspective to to to get even to begin

3018
01:54:23,030 --> 01:54:21,520
to understand their capabilities and

3019
01:54:25,189 --> 01:54:23,040
what they can do but they're they're

3020
01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:25,199
very good and they they learn

3021
01:54:30,149 --> 01:54:27,520
and i'm sure that every

3022
01:54:32,229 --> 01:54:30,159
craft piece of technology every every

3023
01:54:34,550 --> 01:54:32,239
recovery made they've learned something

3024
01:54:35,669 --> 01:54:34,560
that they've been able to then take and

3025
01:54:37,270 --> 01:54:35,679
implement

3026
01:54:39,030 --> 01:54:37,280
the next go around

3027
01:54:41,430 --> 01:54:39,040
you know like i mentioned you one of

3028
01:54:43,830 --> 01:54:41,440
their objectives was to

3029
01:54:45,589 --> 01:54:43,840
try to collect this stuff without

3030
01:54:46,550 --> 01:54:45,599
causing any damage

3031
01:54:47,750 --> 01:54:46,560
and

3032
01:54:49,430 --> 01:54:47,760
that was one of the things they're

3033
01:54:51,910 --> 01:54:49,440
trying to do and

3034
01:54:54,470 --> 01:54:51,920
so i i just have no doubt

3035
01:54:58,149 --> 01:54:54,480
that they they had the resources to to

3036
01:55:00,870 --> 01:54:58,159
do this work and do do a good job at it

3037
01:55:02,830 --> 01:55:00,880
well you're very confident that we could

3038
01:55:05,189 --> 01:55:02,840
take apart alien

3039
01:55:07,270 --> 01:55:05,199
technology right so let me ask you a

3040
01:55:08,709 --> 01:55:07,280
question here if we already know all

3041
01:55:10,870 --> 01:55:08,719
this

3042
01:55:13,350 --> 01:55:10,880
we've disassembled some level of alien

3043
01:55:14,870 --> 01:55:13,360
technology the government clearly knows

3044
01:55:17,510 --> 01:55:14,880
so many things

3045
01:55:19,510 --> 01:55:17,520
why bother with first contact why not

3046
01:55:22,149 --> 01:55:19,520
try to find a way to get them to

3047
01:55:23,669 --> 01:55:22,159
disclose what they know

3048
01:55:24,870 --> 01:55:23,679
because

3049
01:55:26,790 --> 01:55:24,880
i think

3050
01:55:27,910 --> 01:55:26,800
it's not that it's a dangerous game it's

3051
01:55:29,350 --> 01:55:27,920
just

3052
01:55:31,510 --> 01:55:29,360
it would be uh

3053
01:55:32,709 --> 01:55:31,520
it would be really challenging

3054
01:55:36,629 --> 01:55:32,719
you don't

3055
01:55:38,790 --> 01:55:36,639
going to

3056
01:55:40,229 --> 01:55:38,800
no one who controls the

3057
01:55:43,350 --> 01:55:40,239
the strategy

3058
01:55:45,350 --> 01:55:43,360
is going to come forward and and blow

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the whistle most of your whistleblowers

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they were you know compartmentalized

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they can only give you

3062
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one

3063
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you know sliver

3064
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of what is true they can't give you the

3065
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whole piece so it's just not it was just

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too challenging and the other thing is i

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i

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myself

3069
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i don't want to wait for someone else to

3070
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if this if we evolve to the point where

3071
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we're there's some kind of coexistence

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or the reality of this

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changes everything changes our

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perspective our world view our way of

3075
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life going forward

3076
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i'd like to have some

3077
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say

3078
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in in my future for my family for people

3079
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i know i think that you know i don't see

3080
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you know anything the government has

3081
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done on its own without

3082
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um the consent or without the

3083
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collaboration with its citizens is is is

3084
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a you know doomed for failure in my view

3085
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and and i just think that we need

3086
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someone outside of the the government to

3087
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um

3088
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take the first steps and to develop the

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framework for

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diplomacy um

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you know at least that's how i feel

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about it personally well you know

3093
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there's an obvious question that i'd

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like to ask

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and we could have your response

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in our next segment which is

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okay if the government knows all this

3098
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stuff

3099
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what makes you think they won't find

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ways to stop you

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back with sean korea of anonymous

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uprising so the question i asked you and

3207
02:02:20,070 --> 02:02:17,679
we're going to get more into

3208
02:02:21,669 --> 02:02:20,080
how people can get involved in this if

3209
02:02:22,550 --> 02:02:21,679
they really want to contribute their

3210
02:02:24,390 --> 02:02:22,560
funds

3211
02:02:26,149 --> 02:02:24,400
and that is what makes you think the

3212
02:02:28,149 --> 02:02:26,159
government won't stop you if you're

3213
02:02:29,910 --> 02:02:28,159
trying to do this if there's any chance

3214
02:02:30,790 --> 02:02:29,920
for success

3215
02:02:33,589 --> 02:02:30,800
well

3216
02:02:36,070 --> 02:02:33,599
as long i believe if we're

3217
02:02:37,830 --> 02:02:36,080
if we conduct ourselves professionally

3218
02:02:39,430 --> 02:02:37,840
and we're responsible

3219
02:02:41,109 --> 02:02:39,440
i don't think we're a threat to national

3220
02:02:43,990 --> 02:02:41,119
security

3221
02:02:46,470 --> 02:02:44,000
uh number one a lot of the and in the

3222
02:02:48,310 --> 02:02:46,480
government intervention in

3223
02:02:49,430 --> 02:02:48,320
in this realm is another thing that's

3224
02:02:51,270 --> 02:02:49,440
been

3225
02:02:53,430 --> 02:02:51,280
grossly exaggerated

3226
02:02:56,629 --> 02:02:53,440
and and i think hollywood has had a

3227
02:02:58,709 --> 02:02:56,639
has contributed a lot there and

3228
02:03:00,390 --> 02:02:58,719
and be more pragmatic to give you the

3229
02:03:03,189 --> 02:03:00,400
more practical answer

3230
02:03:05,750 --> 02:03:03,199
i own a private military contractor with

3231
02:03:08,870 --> 02:03:05,760
about 300 of the best trained special

3232
02:03:10,870 --> 02:03:08,880
operators so when it comes to security

3233
02:03:14,310 --> 02:03:10,880
to discretion to

3234
02:03:17,030 --> 02:03:14,320
preventing external intervention and i

3235
02:03:17,910 --> 02:03:17,040
mean we we pretty much have the playbook

3236
02:03:20,149 --> 02:03:17,920
so

3237
02:03:21,350 --> 02:03:20,159
we feel pretty confident from a security

3238
02:03:22,629 --> 02:03:21,360
perspective

3239
02:03:24,229 --> 02:03:22,639
but we're not going to try to do

3240
02:03:26,310 --> 02:03:24,239
anything to provoke

3241
02:03:28,390 --> 02:03:26,320
a response that

3242
02:03:29,830 --> 02:03:28,400
would be dangerous or

3243
02:03:31,350 --> 02:03:29,840
could potentially shut us down we're

3244
02:03:32,870 --> 02:03:31,360
going to try to operate

3245
02:03:34,790 --> 02:03:32,880
in a professional way in a way that

3246
02:03:37,189 --> 02:03:34,800
doesn't present a threat to national

3247
02:03:39,109 --> 02:03:37,199
security and as as inclusive as you

3248
02:03:41,669 --> 02:03:39,119
could possibly be and that's the idea

3249
02:03:43,350 --> 02:03:41,679
we're not trying to shut out

3250
02:03:44,870 --> 02:03:43,360
willing contributors

3251
02:03:46,950 --> 02:03:44,880
from the from the government what we

3252
02:03:49,589 --> 02:03:46,960
call our white hat partners

3253
02:03:51,510 --> 02:03:49,599
you know this is an inclusive process

3254
02:03:52,550 --> 02:03:51,520
so

3255
02:03:55,510 --> 02:03:52,560
if they're

3256
02:03:57,270 --> 02:03:55,520
if we're successful

3257
02:03:59,910 --> 02:03:57,280
and we've maybe

3258
02:04:02,149 --> 02:03:59,920
achieved a milestone that

3259
02:04:04,070 --> 02:04:02,159
the government hasn't been able to do

3260
02:04:05,669 --> 02:04:04,080
for whatever reason

3261
02:04:08,470 --> 02:04:05,679
there might be an opportunity for some

3262
02:04:10,070 --> 02:04:08,480
collaboration i don't know but it's not

3263
02:04:12,229 --> 02:04:10,080
something that to be honest with you i

3264
02:04:14,470 --> 02:04:12,239
worry about people don't just

3265
02:04:16,550 --> 02:04:14,480
make contact and you know there's a wet

3266
02:04:19,030 --> 02:04:16,560
team on standby ready to

3267
02:04:20,470 --> 02:04:19,040
neutralize you because you know you've

3268
02:04:22,310 --> 02:04:20,480
started to

3269
02:04:24,390 --> 02:04:22,320
work on this data it's just that's just

3270
02:04:26,709 --> 02:04:24,400
not true i mean it takes a lot of

3271
02:04:29,189 --> 02:04:26,719
paperwork to kill somebody

3272
02:04:31,189 --> 02:04:29,199
you have to be an imminent threat not a

3273
02:04:33,910 --> 02:04:31,199
possible threat but an imminent threat

3274
02:04:35,589 --> 02:04:33,920
to national security for

3275
02:04:38,790 --> 02:04:35,599
for something like that to be

3276
02:04:41,510 --> 02:04:38,800
greenlighted it's just not as easy or as

3277
02:04:42,950 --> 02:04:41,520
fantastic as hollywood and the internet

3278
02:04:45,430 --> 02:04:42,960
would have you believe in my view but

3279
02:04:46,390 --> 02:04:45,440
i'm not assuming it's going to be

3280
02:04:49,030 --> 02:04:46,400
someone

3281
02:04:50,709 --> 02:04:49,040
trying to off you to disappear you don't

3282
02:04:53,350 --> 02:04:50,719
you think interference could be the more

3283
02:04:54,629 --> 02:04:53,360
subtle ways to disrupt your financial

3284
02:04:57,510 --> 02:04:54,639
flow

3285
02:05:00,229 --> 02:04:57,520
well that's that's possible if

3286
02:05:02,310 --> 02:05:00,239
that's a possibility like i said i'm not

3287
02:05:03,669 --> 02:05:02,320
going to spread anti-government

3288
02:05:04,629 --> 02:05:03,679
sentiment that's not what we're trying

3289
02:05:06,550 --> 02:05:04,639
to do

3290
02:05:08,470 --> 02:05:06,560
typically the government would try you

3291
02:05:10,390 --> 02:05:08,480
know like anything else the path of

3292
02:05:12,870 --> 02:05:10,400
least resistance if you're doing

3293
02:05:13,990 --> 02:05:12,880
something that that bears fruit and that

3294
02:05:16,149 --> 02:05:14,000
is useful

3295
02:05:19,189 --> 02:05:16,159
the first thing they'll try to do is

3296
02:05:20,790 --> 02:05:19,199
work with you is to try to fund you

3297
02:05:23,430 --> 02:05:20,800
to you know

3298
02:05:25,990 --> 02:05:23,440
bring you into the fold and make you a

3299
02:05:28,629 --> 02:05:26,000
contributor to a larger body of research

3300
02:05:30,950 --> 02:05:28,639
which i think would be fantastic

3301
02:05:33,750 --> 02:05:30,960
the conditions of that

3302
02:05:35,510 --> 02:05:33,760
collaboration might be problematic to an

3303
02:05:36,550 --> 02:05:35,520
extent for instance if

3304
02:05:39,109 --> 02:05:36,560
you know

3305
02:05:42,390 --> 02:05:39,119
if we can't tell anybody if the

3306
02:05:45,350 --> 02:05:42,400
if if the intention of what we're doing

3307
02:05:46,950 --> 02:05:45,360
is nefarious in any way

3308
02:05:48,950 --> 02:05:46,960
that's something i would opt out of i'll

3309
02:05:51,189 --> 02:05:48,960
give you a perfect example so my company

3310
02:05:53,109 --> 02:05:51,199
provides security as a lot of the

3311
02:05:54,310 --> 02:05:53,119
contractors do that you've seen on tv

3312
02:05:56,550 --> 02:05:54,320
but

3313
02:05:58,390 --> 02:05:56,560
we we choose the clients and the

3314
02:06:00,950 --> 02:05:58,400
situations that we're willing to get

3315
02:06:02,550 --> 02:06:00,960
involved in and for example you may or

3316
02:06:04,390 --> 02:06:02,560
may not have been following the protests

3317
02:06:06,070 --> 02:06:04,400
in north dakota

3318
02:06:07,910 --> 02:06:06,080
with the pipeline

3319
02:06:09,669 --> 02:06:07,920
yes definitely

3320
02:06:12,950 --> 02:06:09,679
those are the types of those are the

3321
02:06:14,790 --> 02:06:12,960
types of security contracts we don't do

3322
02:06:15,669 --> 02:06:14,800
we don't do stuff like that that's just

3323
02:06:18,149 --> 02:06:15,679
not

3324
02:06:20,470 --> 02:06:18,159
willing to

3325
02:06:21,189 --> 02:06:20,480
you know cross morally

3326
02:06:23,350 --> 02:06:21,199
so

3327
02:06:24,870 --> 02:06:23,360
the same thing would apply here the next

3328
02:06:27,830 --> 02:06:24,880
thing is if you are

3329
02:06:30,470 --> 02:06:27,840
you're a threat to national security or

3330
02:06:32,629 --> 02:06:30,480
the work you're doing poses a risk to

3331
02:06:34,390 --> 02:06:32,639
the the health and well-being and safety

3332
02:06:35,830 --> 02:06:34,400
of the public

3333
02:06:38,229 --> 02:06:35,840
they will you know that's when they get

3334
02:06:40,069 --> 02:06:38,239
the epa involved to get you locked up in

3335
02:06:41,589 --> 02:06:40,079
court or they get you know

3336
02:06:42,870 --> 02:06:41,599
they'll stick the irs sign and there's a

3337
02:06:45,030 --> 02:06:42,880
number of ways they can try to be

3338
02:06:48,229 --> 02:06:45,040
disruptive to try to

3339
02:06:50,470 --> 02:06:48,239
either interrupt or drain your resources

3340
02:06:52,870 --> 02:06:50,480
your ability to do that another good

3341
02:06:54,790 --> 02:06:52,880
reason to make sure that your

3342
02:06:56,709 --> 02:06:54,800
your sources of revenue

3343
02:06:58,870 --> 02:06:56,719
are not directly

3344
02:07:00,470 --> 02:06:58,880
affiliated with the work you're doing

3345
02:07:02,950 --> 02:07:00,480
you know because that makes it easy for

3346
02:07:04,790 --> 02:07:02,960
them to disrupt revenue so

3347
02:07:06,629 --> 02:07:04,800
um so that's another another thing they

3348
02:07:08,149 --> 02:07:06,639
can do and then get or they can just

3349
02:07:09,350 --> 02:07:08,159
slap a national security world i mean

3350
02:07:12,149 --> 02:07:09,360
there's a lot of ways they can do to

3351
02:07:14,790 --> 02:07:12,159
disrupt you but the first if you're

3352
02:07:17,350 --> 02:07:14,800
doing something good um

3353
02:07:19,669 --> 02:07:17,360
and and when i mean good i don't mean

3354
02:07:22,229 --> 02:07:19,679
morally i mean if you're doing good work

3355
02:07:25,270 --> 02:07:22,239
it's and it's bearing fruit and you're

3356
02:07:27,589 --> 02:07:25,280
you know making progress they

3357
02:07:30,149 --> 02:07:27,599
they want to participate before they you

3358
02:07:31,830 --> 02:07:30,159
know want to shut you down

3359
02:07:34,069 --> 02:07:31,840
at least that's been my

3360
02:07:35,990 --> 02:07:34,079
experience because you know when it

3361
02:07:37,510 --> 02:07:36,000
comes to weapon systems and a number of

3362
02:07:39,109 --> 02:07:37,520
different technologies

3363
02:07:41,030 --> 02:07:39,119
i've been part of that i mean the

3364
02:07:41,910 --> 02:07:41,040
process isn't different just because

3365
02:07:43,350 --> 02:07:41,920
it's

3366
02:07:45,270 --> 02:07:43,360
we're talking about extraterrestrial

3367
02:07:47,109 --> 02:07:45,280
technology if you're developing a weapon

3368
02:07:50,069 --> 02:07:47,119
system or

3369
02:07:51,990 --> 02:07:50,079
some kind of a cyber

3370
02:07:53,430 --> 02:07:52,000
technology

3371
02:07:56,629 --> 02:07:53,440
you know they want to partner with you

3372
02:07:58,550 --> 02:07:56,639
that's that's what they try to do um

3373
02:08:01,270 --> 02:07:58,560
hopefully i answered that question

3374
02:08:03,430 --> 02:08:01,280
just a background question here you're

3375
02:08:05,430 --> 02:08:03,440
head of a group called

3376
02:08:07,990 --> 02:08:05,440
failing security group

3377
02:08:09,589 --> 02:08:08,000
now is this exactly is this something

3378
02:08:11,910 --> 02:08:09,599
that you can find online get more

3379
02:08:13,430 --> 02:08:11,920
information about

3380
02:08:16,790 --> 02:08:13,440
we're going we're actually in the

3381
02:08:18,709 --> 02:08:16,800
process of building a website um now we

3382
02:08:20,709 --> 02:08:18,719
we've never had one

3383
02:08:22,870 --> 02:08:20,719
never really needed one because for the

3384
02:08:25,510 --> 02:08:22,880
most part are

3385
02:08:27,109 --> 02:08:25,520
we had a very select

3386
02:08:30,470 --> 02:08:27,119
client list

3387
02:08:33,510 --> 02:08:30,480
the us government and

3388
02:08:36,870 --> 02:08:33,520
some corporations and you know a couple

3389
02:08:38,629 --> 02:08:36,880
of private individuals so you had a

3390
02:08:40,390 --> 02:08:38,639
haven't really needed to market

3391
02:08:42,390 --> 02:08:40,400
ourselves in the traditional way but we

3392
02:08:44,390 --> 02:08:42,400
are going to build a website more to you

3393
02:08:45,750 --> 02:08:44,400
know be more informative

3394
02:08:47,510 --> 02:08:45,760
than anything

3395
02:08:48,550 --> 02:08:47,520
for people that are curious about what

3396
02:08:50,229 --> 02:08:48,560
we do

3397
02:08:53,030 --> 02:08:50,239
okay so right now we really can't look

3398
02:08:54,950 --> 02:08:53,040
online and see what you do

3399
02:08:57,669 --> 02:08:54,960
no basically what we do we provide

3400
02:08:59,669 --> 02:08:57,679
executive protection you know we protect

3401
02:09:02,069 --> 02:08:59,679
um we're hired for

3402
02:09:03,350 --> 02:09:02,079
uh to protect installations

3403
02:09:04,870 --> 02:09:03,360
abroad

3404
02:09:06,790 --> 02:09:04,880
we do

3405
02:09:09,669 --> 02:09:06,800
some domestic

3406
02:09:13,830 --> 02:09:09,679
you know patrol security services here

3407
02:09:16,870 --> 02:09:13,840
um that involves sophisticated cctv and

3408
02:09:19,750 --> 02:09:16,880
facial recognition technology so

3409
02:09:22,870 --> 02:09:19,760
you know we provide a and we also

3410
02:09:25,030 --> 02:09:22,880
provide uh cyber security services so

3411
02:09:27,270 --> 02:09:25,040
we're just a

3412
02:09:29,910 --> 02:09:27,280
you know a um

3413
02:09:32,069 --> 02:09:29,920
security shop

3414
02:09:34,390 --> 02:09:32,079
just checking i'm intelligent let's go

3415
02:09:35,990 --> 02:09:34,400
more in our final segments here

3416
02:09:37,830 --> 02:09:36,000
into your plans here you're raising a

3417
02:09:39,990 --> 02:09:37,840
million dollars

3418
02:09:42,149 --> 02:09:40,000
and i guess people want to know

3419
02:09:43,990 --> 02:09:42,159
roughly how that's going to be spent but

3420
02:09:46,550 --> 02:09:44,000
the first part of the question is are

3421
02:09:49,589 --> 02:09:46,560
you going to attempt to establish

3422
02:09:51,430 --> 02:09:49,599
a system to detect ufo activity and the

3423
02:09:54,069 --> 02:09:51,440
reason i raised that is because on the

3424
02:09:56,310 --> 02:09:54,079
power cast over the past year or so we

3425
02:09:58,550 --> 02:09:56,320
have talked to a couple of people

3426
02:10:00,229 --> 02:09:58,560
who want to set up a network of ufo

3427
02:10:03,830 --> 02:10:00,239
detection systems one of them is going

3428
02:10:06,229 --> 02:10:03,840
to put a satellite into low earth orbit

3429
02:10:08,149 --> 02:10:06,239
which is going to be i think less

3430
02:10:10,950 --> 02:10:08,159
possible than finding the needle on the

3431
02:10:13,589 --> 02:10:10,960
haystack but i'd like to find out what

3432
02:10:15,830 --> 02:10:13,599
you plan to do with regard to finding

3433
02:10:17,430 --> 02:10:15,840
the activity so you can try to

3434
02:10:19,990 --> 02:10:17,440
communicate with

3435
02:10:21,189 --> 02:10:20,000
whoever or whatever these things are

3436
02:10:23,669 --> 02:10:21,199
we have

3437
02:10:25,990 --> 02:10:23,679
sure sean korea

3438
02:10:30,790 --> 02:10:26,000
with gene and chris you're in the

3439
02:10:41,990 --> 02:10:38,709
[Music]

3440
02:10:42,830 --> 02:10:42,000
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3441
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3442
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3443
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3444
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predicting every major financial trend

3445
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including the market crash of 2008. his

3446
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name is harry dent and in his newly

3447
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released book he is making even bigger

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3450
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that you have to leave in your mouth for

3464
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an hour just swab your teeth for five

3465
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minutes and you're done to try power

3466
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3468
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3469
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3475
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are you one of the 70 of americans that

3480
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want to own your own business afraid to

3481
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leave the security of your current job

3482
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to pursue your dreams i'm pharmacist

3483
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keith dr wallick the dead doctors don't

3484
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lie guy and myself want to show you a

3485
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low-cost way to create your own business

3486
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3487
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creating extra income for you and your

3488
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family by joining his crusades spreading

3489
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his message for better health to learn

3490
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3491
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3492
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3520
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3530
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3532
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3541
02:14:57,430 --> 02:14:55,910
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3542
02:14:59,750 --> 02:14:57,440
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3543
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paracast the gold standard of paranormal

3544
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3545
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[Music]

3546
02:15:13,030 --> 02:15:11,040
the question on the table here

3547
02:15:15,109 --> 02:15:13,040
where do the million dollars what's the

3548
02:15:17,270 --> 02:15:15,119
year marked for this million dollars you

3549
02:15:19,189 --> 02:15:17,280
want to raise with gofundme are you

3550
02:15:21,510 --> 02:15:19,199
going to try to set up a network of ufo

3551
02:15:23,990 --> 02:15:21,520
detection systems to know where to go

3552
02:15:25,990 --> 02:15:24,000
no we're a large portion of the money is

3553
02:15:28,310 --> 02:15:26,000
going to be spent to build that data

3554
02:15:29,510 --> 02:15:28,320
aggregation and analysis

3555
02:15:31,830 --> 02:15:29,520
platform

3556
02:15:34,149 --> 02:15:31,840
that we're going to put online

3557
02:15:35,669 --> 02:15:34,159
so all of our numbers and and you know

3558
02:15:37,830 --> 02:15:35,679
we're going to when we develop our

3559
02:15:41,589 --> 02:15:37,840
protocols we'll be able to

3560
02:15:43,910 --> 02:15:41,599
um and if we're successful at least with

3561
02:15:45,510 --> 02:15:43,920
what our initial attempt is we're going

3562
02:15:46,790 --> 02:15:45,520
to make that available to the public we

3563
02:15:48,550 --> 02:15:46,800
want to try to

3564
02:15:51,750 --> 02:15:48,560
get as many people in as many different

3565
02:15:54,069 --> 02:15:51,760
locations and we'll show them how to

3566
02:15:56,310 --> 02:15:54,079
how to pick a site you know what kind of

3567
02:15:57,669 --> 02:15:56,320
equipment tools we'll need and how to go

3568
02:15:59,109 --> 02:15:57,679
about doing this themselves but we want

3569
02:16:02,310 --> 02:15:59,119
to try to get

3570
02:16:05,430 --> 02:16:02,320
as much data raw data fed into this

3571
02:16:09,430 --> 02:16:05,440
system for analysis and for modeling

3572
02:16:11,109 --> 02:16:09,440
which will give us uh information on

3573
02:16:13,030 --> 02:16:11,119
the sites

3574
02:16:14,709 --> 02:16:13,040
the hot you know what are the best

3575
02:16:16,229 --> 02:16:14,719
results and what kind of sites what were

3576
02:16:17,189 --> 02:16:16,239
the characteristics of that site for

3577
02:16:21,030 --> 02:16:17,199
example

3578
02:16:23,430 --> 02:16:21,040
you know there's certain energy

3579
02:16:25,109 --> 02:16:23,440
deposits in certain parts of the earth

3580
02:16:27,030 --> 02:16:25,119
there's you know electromagnetism

3581
02:16:29,750 --> 02:16:27,040
there's all kinds of

3582
02:16:31,990 --> 02:16:29,760
different naturally occurring anomalies

3583
02:16:34,070 --> 02:16:32,000
that seem to be hotbeds and we want to

3584
02:16:36,389 --> 02:16:34,080
try to figure out where those are which

3585
02:16:38,950 --> 02:16:36,399
ones are the hottest and why

3586
02:16:41,270 --> 02:16:38,960
so we've got we're obviously in order to

3587
02:16:43,030 --> 02:16:41,280
figure that out we need to try a number

3588
02:16:44,950 --> 02:16:43,040
of different things the best and most

3589
02:16:46,709 --> 02:16:44,960
practical way to do that is to get

3590
02:16:48,230 --> 02:16:46,719
people who are interested

3591
02:16:51,270 --> 02:16:48,240
and have the

3592
02:16:53,669 --> 02:16:51,280
the aptitude as well as the desire to go

3593
02:16:55,830 --> 02:16:53,679
out and be an extension and do this work

3594
02:16:57,429 --> 02:16:55,840
in remote areas a lot of this work's

3595
02:16:58,950 --> 02:16:57,439
already been done

3596
02:17:00,629 --> 02:16:58,960
you know you're talking to somebody

3597
02:17:03,270 --> 02:17:00,639
who's been working on this

3598
02:17:05,910 --> 02:17:03,280
particular aspect of your project for

3599
02:17:07,509 --> 02:17:05,920
years and i'm in the midst of putting

3600
02:17:10,389 --> 02:17:07,519
together a

3601
02:17:12,870 --> 02:17:10,399
triangulated you know multi-instrumented

3602
02:17:15,190 --> 02:17:12,880
surveillance setup in one of the premier

3603
02:17:16,549 --> 02:17:15,200
ufo hot spots in north america

3604
02:17:19,110 --> 02:17:16,559
just one thing you should know about me

3605
02:17:20,790 --> 02:17:19,120
up front i'm a primary research guy not

3606
02:17:21,509 --> 02:17:20,800
a secondary so

3607
02:17:24,950 --> 02:17:21,519
i

3608
02:17:26,549 --> 02:17:24,960
lot of people have done a lot of

3609
02:17:28,709 --> 02:17:26,559
different things and a lot of it seems

3610
02:17:31,429 --> 02:17:28,719
good but i kind of want to start from

3611
02:17:32,870 --> 02:17:31,439
scratch so we don't miss anything

3612
02:17:35,110 --> 02:17:32,880
and and you know i don't want to take

3613
02:17:36,469 --> 02:17:35,120
any shortcuts so a lot of the things

3614
02:17:38,309 --> 02:17:36,479
that you've

3615
02:17:39,270 --> 02:17:38,319
you've learned in your experience we'll

3616
02:17:41,589 --> 02:17:39,280
probably

3617
02:17:43,270 --> 02:17:41,599
uh pick that up and that again that's

3618
02:17:45,190 --> 02:17:43,280
the whole idea is to make this a very

3619
02:17:47,750 --> 02:17:45,200
inclusive process because we're gonna

3620
02:17:50,790 --> 02:17:47,760
i'm sure gonna meet people

3621
02:17:53,110 --> 02:17:50,800
who have experiences they can contribute

3622
02:17:54,629 --> 02:17:53,120
that will help us move along a little

3623
02:17:55,509 --> 02:17:54,639
faster we don't have all the answers but

3624
02:17:58,230 --> 02:17:55,519
we are

3625
02:18:00,070 --> 02:17:58,240
nobody that is involved

3626
02:18:01,349 --> 02:18:00,080
at this point in the organization is a

3627
02:18:06,309 --> 02:18:01,359
seasoned

3628
02:18:08,070 --> 02:18:06,319
background at all um

3629
02:18:09,750 --> 02:18:08,080
so uh

3630
02:18:12,469 --> 02:18:09,760
you know from we're really kind of

3631
02:18:15,910 --> 02:18:12,479
starting from scratch and i and i in

3632
02:18:18,150 --> 02:18:15,920
in the past and i'm not trying to say

3633
02:18:21,030 --> 02:18:18,160
look at areas of high incidence

3634
02:18:23,110 --> 02:18:21,040
you look at what your chances are of of

3635
02:18:24,469 --> 02:18:23,120
actually capturing some sort of

3636
02:18:27,429 --> 02:18:24,479
real-time event

3637
02:18:30,150 --> 02:18:27,439
based on uh the databases that have been

3638
02:18:32,309 --> 02:18:30,160
slowly being accumulated over decades

3639
02:18:34,389 --> 02:18:32,319
there are places in north america where

3640
02:18:36,629 --> 02:18:34,399
you have a much higher

3641
02:18:38,950 --> 02:18:36,639
chance percentage wise of of having an

3642
02:18:41,190 --> 02:18:38,960
unusual occurrence and in in the case of

3643
02:18:43,669 --> 02:18:41,200
the san luis valley where i was

3644
02:18:46,230 --> 02:18:43,679
there's more sightings per 10 000

3645
02:18:47,830 --> 02:18:46,240
population then i think there's one

3646
02:18:49,509 --> 02:18:47,840
other spot that's comparable and that

3647
02:18:52,150 --> 02:18:49,519
would be in north dakota because there's

3648
02:18:55,910 --> 02:18:52,160
so few people but for every 10 000 you

3649
02:18:59,110 --> 02:18:55,920
know a population there are 257 uh or

3650
02:19:01,910 --> 02:18:59,120
274 i forget um youth logical events

3651
02:19:03,429 --> 02:19:01,920
uh the next nearest being i think 50

3652
02:19:06,389 --> 02:19:03,439
something uh per

3653
02:19:09,030 --> 02:19:06,399
10 uh 10 uh population

3654
02:19:11,509 --> 02:19:09,040
so yeah i mean one of our first two id

3655
02:19:13,990 --> 02:19:11,519
uh spots that do have a a history and a

3656
02:19:15,349 --> 02:19:14,000
preponderance of uh of sighting activity

3657
02:19:16,950 --> 02:19:15,359
well we're are

3658
02:19:18,629 --> 02:19:16,960
just this was kind i found this to be

3659
02:19:21,429 --> 02:19:18,639
kind of interesting but you know some of

3660
02:19:24,389 --> 02:19:21,439
the the first six expeditions we'll do

3661
02:19:28,629 --> 02:19:24,399
we are planning to do on

3662
02:19:30,549 --> 02:19:28,639
a few uh different indian reservations

3663
02:19:33,349 --> 02:19:30,559
yeah they're pretty isolated they're

3664
02:19:34,790 --> 02:19:33,359
pretty isolated no you know

3665
02:19:37,270 --> 02:19:34,800
some of the

3666
02:19:39,669 --> 02:19:37,280
most secret military installations are

3667
02:19:42,230 --> 02:19:39,679
actually on on indian reservations for

3668
02:19:45,190 --> 02:19:42,240
obvious reasons um they can operate with

3669
02:19:46,870 --> 02:19:45,200
almost absolute autonomy the civilian

3670
02:19:49,110 --> 02:19:46,880
population and hidden indian reservation

3671
02:19:52,150 --> 02:19:49,120
is not really interested in engaging

3672
02:19:53,670 --> 02:19:52,160
with the outside world too much so

3673
02:19:55,670 --> 02:19:53,680
they don't have to worry about that and

3674
02:19:59,110 --> 02:19:55,680
so we found that to be

3675
02:20:02,630 --> 02:19:59,120
and a really good source of information

3676
02:20:03,910 --> 02:20:02,640
from my experience is from a historical

3677
02:20:07,349 --> 02:20:03,920
perspective

3678
02:20:07,359 --> 02:20:11,030
you know any kind of religious

3679
02:20:16,230 --> 02:20:14,469
taint tainting if you will

3680
02:20:17,990 --> 02:20:16,240
residents on indian reservations have a

3681
02:20:18,710 --> 02:20:18,000
lot of great information as it relates

3682
02:20:21,830 --> 02:20:18,720
to

3683
02:20:24,870 --> 02:20:21,840
this activity um that doesn't make it

3684
02:20:26,950 --> 02:20:24,880
into the mainstream i found so

3685
02:20:28,230 --> 02:20:26,960
that's one of the interesting locations

3686
02:20:30,230 --> 02:20:28,240
we're going to start where we'll have

3687
02:20:32,550 --> 02:20:30,240
very little interference

3688
02:20:35,030 --> 02:20:32,560
we'll have you know

3689
02:20:37,510 --> 02:20:35,040
all the elements we would look for

3690
02:20:38,630 --> 02:20:37,520
or exist and are really

3691
02:20:40,710 --> 02:20:38,640
optimal

3692
02:20:41,910 --> 02:20:40,720
and if we can uh

3693
02:20:45,030 --> 02:20:41,920
you know if we can have a measure of

3694
02:20:47,110 --> 02:20:45,040
success initially in that kind of arena

3695
02:20:48,150 --> 02:20:47,120
that that would be something that can be

3696
02:20:50,070 --> 02:20:48,160
uh

3697
02:20:52,630 --> 02:20:50,080
replicated on a large scale around the

3698
02:20:55,190 --> 02:20:52,640
world i would imagine so

3699
02:20:56,469 --> 02:20:55,200
but to answer your first question

3700
02:20:58,230 --> 02:20:56,479
a lot of the money is going to be spent

3701
02:21:00,309 --> 02:20:58,240
to develop that platform because that's

3702
02:21:01,590 --> 02:21:00,319
going to be really how we

3703
02:21:04,469 --> 02:21:01,600
aggregate

3704
02:21:05,349 --> 02:21:04,479
analyze and model the data coming in

3705
02:21:07,110 --> 02:21:05,359
from

3706
02:21:08,150 --> 02:21:07,120
all over the place

3707
02:21:10,870 --> 02:21:08,160
the other

3708
02:21:14,469 --> 02:21:10,880
aspect is we are

3709
02:21:15,590 --> 02:21:14,479
going to develop we have a a partner who

3710
02:21:16,950 --> 02:21:15,600
um

3711
02:21:20,150 --> 02:21:16,960
was a

3712
02:21:22,870 --> 02:21:20,160
former uh arms dealer and

3713
02:21:25,030 --> 02:21:22,880
uh was a very successful contractor for

3714
02:21:27,590 --> 02:21:25,040
maritime security who is now on the

3715
02:21:30,790 --> 02:21:27,600
board of a a specialized optics company

3716
02:21:34,070 --> 02:21:30,800
and we're trying we would like to

3717
02:21:35,110 --> 02:21:34,080
be able to observe um

3718
02:21:39,349 --> 02:21:35,120
uh

3719
02:21:41,510 --> 02:21:39,359
you know these um craft um

3720
02:21:45,030 --> 02:21:41,520
you know up close

3721
02:21:46,070 --> 02:21:45,040
using specialized optics so we're

3722
02:21:49,429 --> 02:21:46,080
going to

3723
02:21:51,990 --> 02:21:49,439
purchase a system uh kind of like a

3724
02:21:53,510 --> 02:21:52,000
a telescope um but a little bit

3725
02:21:57,110 --> 02:21:53,520
different it has

3726
02:21:59,750 --> 02:21:57,120
it can effectively record

3727
02:22:01,670 --> 02:21:59,760
a whole array of different spectrums of

3728
02:22:04,950 --> 02:22:01,680
light

3729
02:22:08,870 --> 02:22:04,960
and and we can we can use in one through

3730
02:22:10,790 --> 02:22:08,880
one uh view we can see things in

3731
02:22:12,389 --> 02:22:10,800
different spectrums of light which picks

3732
02:22:13,190 --> 02:22:12,399
up details that you miss yeah it's

3733
02:22:15,670 --> 02:22:13,200
called

3734
02:22:17,349 --> 02:22:15,680
the blaze

3735
02:22:19,590 --> 02:22:17,359
it's an attachment that goes on to an

3736
02:22:21,510 --> 02:22:19,600
optical analog optical

3737
02:22:23,750 --> 02:22:21,520
instrument optical instrument uh called

3738
02:22:25,510 --> 02:22:23,760
a blaze grating it separates light into

3739
02:22:27,349 --> 02:22:25,520
spectrum

3740
02:22:30,870 --> 02:22:27,359
exactly so we can record that

3741
02:22:33,270 --> 02:22:30,880
information and and so we're

3742
02:22:35,510 --> 02:22:33,280
we're having uh a

3743
02:22:37,190 --> 02:22:35,520
device created so that we can use that

3744
02:22:39,429 --> 02:22:37,200
that has some

3745
02:22:42,389 --> 02:22:39,439
uh customized features

3746
02:22:45,270 --> 02:22:42,399
um so that's you know a pretty costly

3747
02:22:47,990 --> 02:22:45,280
endeavor but the rest of it in terms of

3748
02:22:49,510 --> 02:22:48,000
uh our operations costs for the

3749
02:22:50,389 --> 02:22:49,520
expeditions

3750
02:22:52,230 --> 02:22:50,399
we're

3751
02:22:53,750 --> 02:22:52,240
we would love and are

3752
02:22:55,590 --> 02:22:53,760
trying to encourage people who are

3753
02:22:57,349 --> 02:22:55,600
interested in going on expeditions with

3754
02:23:00,550 --> 02:22:57,359
us to help us out

3755
02:23:01,750 --> 02:23:00,560
um uh you know wide open for that we're

3756
02:23:04,070 --> 02:23:01,760
trying to invite as many people to

3757
02:23:06,070 --> 02:23:04,080
participate as possible

3758
02:23:07,590 --> 02:23:06,080
but most of the operational costs we're

3759
02:23:10,469 --> 02:23:07,600
going to

3760
02:23:14,150 --> 02:23:10,479
need

3761
02:23:17,830 --> 02:23:15,510
some of our equipment that we're going

3762
02:23:19,110 --> 02:23:17,840
to need out in the field and

3763
02:23:20,150 --> 02:23:19,120
that's it

3764
02:23:22,550 --> 02:23:20,160
once we've

3765
02:23:24,389 --> 02:23:22,560
been able to acquire those things and

3766
02:23:26,469 --> 02:23:24,399
concluded our initial and all everything

3767
02:23:28,950 --> 02:23:26,479
that we do is going to be

3768
02:23:30,550 --> 02:23:28,960
recorded the raw data and this is

3769
02:23:31,750 --> 02:23:30,560
probably

3770
02:23:34,550 --> 02:23:31,760
one of the if i had to say a

3771
02:23:36,070 --> 02:23:34,560
differentiator which i wish

3772
02:23:37,670 --> 02:23:36,080
more people would do

3773
02:23:40,070 --> 02:23:37,680
i personally would be interested in

3774
02:23:43,830 --> 02:23:40,080
looking at more raw data than

3775
02:23:46,150 --> 02:23:43,840
um the edited data and and you know that

3776
02:23:48,389 --> 02:23:46,160
that has someone else's ideas about what

3777
02:23:50,790 --> 02:23:48,399
this means but we're going to provide

3778
02:23:52,790 --> 02:23:50,800
all the raw data as we

3779
02:23:55,190 --> 02:23:52,800
record it is going to be available for

3780
02:23:58,469 --> 02:23:55,200
people to to view to look at to go

3781
02:24:01,429 --> 02:23:59,429
so we

3782
02:24:02,389 --> 02:24:01,439
have a we're going to be purchasing a

3783
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lot of

3784
02:24:06,469 --> 02:24:04,319
you know i don't want to say gopro but

3785
02:24:09,190 --> 02:24:06,479
we're going to use kind of a gopro

3786
02:24:10,230 --> 02:24:09,200
method of recording our activities um

3787
02:24:11,750 --> 02:24:10,240
not to say we're going to use

3788
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specifically gopro

3789
02:24:15,190 --> 02:24:14,080
cameras but you get the idea so that we

3790
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can

3791
02:24:18,710 --> 02:24:16,800
so we capture everything

3792
02:24:20,389 --> 02:24:18,720
and so that the public can can benefit

3793
02:24:21,910 --> 02:24:20,399
from that i'm going to ask you more

3794
02:24:23,510 --> 02:24:21,920
questions about this and so will chris

3795
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cases of hospitalization and even death

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phone lines are open 24 7. call

3893
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this is jacques valley you're listening

3894
02:29:13,990 --> 02:29:00,319
to the paracast

3895
02:29:17,830 --> 02:29:15,670
sean can you

3896
02:29:19,190 --> 02:29:17,840
tell us do you actually have a specific

3897
02:29:21,429 --> 02:29:19,200
detailed

3898
02:29:23,110 --> 02:29:21,439
cost breakdown a business plan that

3899
02:29:23,990 --> 02:29:23,120
people can get a hold of

3900
02:29:25,750 --> 02:29:24,000
we do

3901
02:29:26,950 --> 02:29:25,760
we were you know this is a little bit

3902
02:29:29,190 --> 02:29:26,960
different

3903
02:29:30,630 --> 02:29:29,200
endeavor than

3904
02:29:32,870 --> 02:29:30,640
any of us have ever

3905
02:29:34,389 --> 02:29:32,880
been a part of before so

3906
02:29:36,469 --> 02:29:34,399
we wanted to

3907
02:29:38,389 --> 02:29:36,479
provide that to people

3908
02:29:40,389 --> 02:29:38,399
sort of on a

3909
02:29:42,469 --> 02:29:40,399
individual on a case-by-case basis as

3910
02:29:44,710 --> 02:29:42,479
they require that information

3911
02:29:46,389 --> 02:29:44,720
there we were kind of a split on whether

3912
02:29:47,590 --> 02:29:46,399
it would be smart

3913
02:29:49,590 --> 02:29:47,600
to just

3914
02:29:51,190 --> 02:29:49,600
make it available to the public

3915
02:29:52,950 --> 02:29:51,200
i was one that kind of voted for it

3916
02:29:54,309 --> 02:29:52,960
because it's pretty straightforward and

3917
02:29:56,469 --> 02:29:54,319
you know there's nothing in there that's

3918
02:29:58,630 --> 02:29:56,479
too you don't have any particular trade

3919
02:30:00,630 --> 02:29:58,640
secrets i mean it was pretty pretty open

3920
02:30:02,230 --> 02:30:00,640
so i wouldn't have a problem with it i

3921
02:30:04,790 --> 02:30:02,240
think the the issue would be is there

3922
02:30:07,830 --> 02:30:04,800
certain companies vendors and sources

3923
02:30:09,030 --> 02:30:07,840
and stuff that don't that are providing

3924
02:30:10,550 --> 02:30:09,040
resources that don't want to be

3925
02:30:12,870 --> 02:30:10,560
mentioned but i don't think anybody

3926
02:30:15,429 --> 02:30:12,880
really cares who they are so i'm sure we

3927
02:30:17,030 --> 02:30:15,439
could come up with a the version that is

3928
02:30:20,150 --> 02:30:17,040
you know not going to

3929
02:30:21,429 --> 02:30:20,160
affect our project that that the public

3930
02:30:23,830 --> 02:30:21,439
can look at

3931
02:30:25,910 --> 02:30:23,840
yeah but the reason i'm mentioning that

3932
02:30:28,710 --> 02:30:25,920
you've got a gofundme campaign here

3933
02:30:30,790 --> 02:30:28,720
seeking one million dollars and maybe

3934
02:30:32,950 --> 02:30:30,800
trivial for people to give ten dollars a

3935
02:30:34,950 --> 02:30:32,960
hundred dollars whatever but if someone

3936
02:30:36,469 --> 02:30:34,960
really wants to put a lot of money into

3937
02:30:38,469 --> 02:30:36,479
this and you're going to need

3938
02:30:40,070 --> 02:30:38,479
lots of people to participate they're

3939
02:30:42,870 --> 02:30:40,080
going to insist on

3940
02:30:44,870 --> 02:30:42,880
a business plan a breakdown what are you

3941
02:30:46,389 --> 02:30:44,880
going to do with this money where is it

3942
02:30:48,710 --> 02:30:46,399
well that's a good point when we

3943
02:30:50,469 --> 02:30:48,720
initially did this campaign you know i'm

3944
02:30:51,990 --> 02:30:50,479
i'm used to going after more traditional

3945
02:30:53,670 --> 02:30:52,000
sources of capital right venture

3946
02:30:55,830 --> 02:30:53,680
capitalists angel investors

3947
02:30:57,990 --> 02:30:55,840
institutional investors etc

3948
02:31:00,710 --> 02:30:58,000
uh in this case because like you've said

3949
02:31:01,670 --> 02:31:00,720
the average donation is between 20 to

3950
02:31:04,950 --> 02:31:01,680
100

3951
02:31:06,710 --> 02:31:04,960
that level of detail would be so much

3952
02:31:08,550 --> 02:31:06,720
that it would overwhelm people and that

3953
02:31:10,630 --> 02:31:08,560
just they would they would lose interest

3954
02:31:11,990 --> 02:31:10,640
because a lot of the but to your point

3955
02:31:13,349 --> 02:31:12,000
it and we thought if somebody really

3956
02:31:14,790 --> 02:31:13,359
wanted to get involved and have the

3957
02:31:17,110 --> 02:31:14,800
resources to

3958
02:31:18,630 --> 02:31:17,120
you know make a sizable investment and

3959
02:31:20,469 --> 02:31:18,640
they wanted to you know access that

3960
02:31:22,070 --> 02:31:20,479
information that was kind of you know

3961
02:31:24,710 --> 02:31:22,080
well we have it available if they want

3962
02:31:25,830 --> 02:31:24,720
it so but to your point you think that

3963
02:31:27,270 --> 02:31:25,840
you're making the point that we should

3964
02:31:28,870 --> 02:31:27,280
just put it out there for the public

3965
02:31:30,790 --> 02:31:28,880
just for everybody and anybody to read

3966
02:31:32,710 --> 02:31:30,800
it is what you're suggesting

3967
02:31:34,309 --> 02:31:32,720
well i think it has to be available for

3968
02:31:35,510 --> 02:31:34,319
people to want to know more you don't

3969
02:31:37,830 --> 02:31:35,520
necessarily have to have the full

3970
02:31:39,670 --> 02:31:37,840
business plan except if someone is more

3971
02:31:41,670 --> 02:31:39,680
seriously interested but something i

3972
02:31:43,990 --> 02:31:41,680
mean right now from what i see in your

3973
02:31:46,870 --> 02:31:44,000
gofundme campaign is just a few

3974
02:31:48,950 --> 02:31:46,880
paragraphs of very general information

3975
02:31:52,309 --> 02:31:48,960
kind of like what you get if you put in

3976
02:31:54,309 --> 02:31:52,319
a hundred dollars but it doesn't explain

3977
02:31:56,870 --> 02:31:54,319
all the purposes of this money i think

3978
02:31:59,429 --> 02:31:56,880
you could write a one-page business plan

3979
02:32:02,150 --> 02:31:59,439
that roughly describes where this is

3980
02:32:05,429 --> 02:32:02,160
going and not for the salaries of the

3981
02:32:07,270 --> 02:32:05,439
people participating exactly good point

3982
02:32:09,349 --> 02:32:07,280
we'll we'll put something together and

3983
02:32:11,429 --> 02:32:09,359
publish it i appreciate that to the

3984
02:32:13,270 --> 02:32:11,439
suggestion again a lot of this stuff is

3985
02:32:14,790 --> 02:32:13,280
new to us we're not sure

3986
02:32:16,870 --> 02:32:14,800
we're not sure uh

3987
02:32:18,469 --> 02:32:16,880
you know how people are gonna respond

3988
02:32:19,910 --> 02:32:18,479
what you know what what the level of

3989
02:32:21,670 --> 02:32:19,920
entry you know a lot of this is just

3990
02:32:23,510 --> 02:32:21,680
uncharted territories you know we're

3991
02:32:25,190 --> 02:32:23,520
certainly open to ideas and and i think

3992
02:32:26,469 --> 02:32:25,200
that's a that makes a lot of sense to

3993
02:32:28,070 --> 02:32:26,479
make a good point

3994
02:32:30,710 --> 02:32:28,080
right but didn't you consult with

3995
02:32:32,710 --> 02:32:30,720
accountants or business people as to how

3996
02:32:34,150 --> 02:32:32,720
to raise capital no

3997
02:32:36,469 --> 02:32:34,160
no well

3998
02:32:38,870 --> 02:32:36,479
we're not none of the money we raise is

3999
02:32:42,070 --> 02:32:38,880
going towards traditional operating

4000
02:32:44,550 --> 02:32:42,080
costs or anybody's salary or anything

4001
02:32:47,190 --> 02:32:44,560
like that it's it's really we just need

4002
02:32:49,670 --> 02:32:47,200
we need to develop this platform and we

4003
02:32:52,070 --> 02:32:49,680
need some equipment and that's really it

4004
02:32:53,349 --> 02:32:52,080
everything else is coming out of other

4005
02:32:55,270 --> 02:32:53,359
funding sources

4006
02:32:57,190 --> 02:32:55,280
it's a million dollars man it's a

4007
02:32:58,630 --> 02:32:57,200
million dollars just what kind of

4008
02:32:59,750 --> 02:32:58,640
equipment do you need for a million

4009
02:33:02,469 --> 02:32:59,760
dollars

4010
02:33:04,870 --> 02:33:02,479
well this stuff's not cheap

4011
02:33:07,750 --> 02:33:04,880
well the biggest the most expensive part

4012
02:33:09,590 --> 02:33:07,760
is the the analytics system it's going

4013
02:33:12,070 --> 02:33:09,600
to be it's extraordinarily expensive

4014
02:33:15,030 --> 02:33:12,080
commercial analytics platforms cost

4015
02:33:16,389 --> 02:33:15,040
between 480 to 600 and some odd thousand

4016
02:33:17,670 --> 02:33:16,399
dollars we're building this one from

4017
02:33:19,270 --> 02:33:17,680
scratch

4018
02:33:21,750 --> 02:33:19,280
you know because all the algorithms have

4019
02:33:24,469 --> 02:33:21,760
to be custom there isn't you know there

4020
02:33:26,309 --> 02:33:24,479
isn't a pre-scripted set of algorithms

4021
02:33:28,150 --> 02:33:26,319
we could use that would really be a good

4022
02:33:29,990 --> 02:33:28,160
fit for the kinds of data that we're

4023
02:33:33,270 --> 02:33:30,000
collecting so this has all got to be

4024
02:33:35,510 --> 02:33:33,280
built it's all custom you know it's not

4025
02:33:37,670 --> 02:33:35,520
it's not cheap sean sean we're running

4026
02:33:39,349 --> 02:33:37,680
out of time i need to we have maybe four

4027
02:33:41,510 --> 02:33:39,359
minutes left to talk about this i want

4028
02:33:43,830 --> 02:33:41,520
to be really quick about this all right

4029
02:33:46,790 --> 02:33:43,840
all right so you're talking about 400

4030
02:33:48,630 --> 02:33:46,800
500 000 for this analytics platform that

4031
02:33:50,469 --> 02:33:48,640
could be put in a single sheet of paper

4032
02:33:52,070 --> 02:33:50,479
here's what the money will go for and

4033
02:33:53,110 --> 02:33:52,080
you can stick it on your gofundme

4034
02:33:55,590 --> 02:33:53,120
campaign

4035
02:33:58,389 --> 02:33:55,600
analytics platform this that the other

4036
02:34:00,550 --> 02:33:58,399
thing personnel programmers

4037
02:34:01,990 --> 02:34:00,560
all that can be spelled out and i think

4038
02:34:03,429 --> 02:34:02,000
if you spelled it out you'd get a lot

4039
02:34:04,389 --> 02:34:03,439
more action than you're getting now

4040
02:34:07,510 --> 02:34:04,399
you're just

4041
02:34:08,950 --> 02:34:07,520
raised as we talk a few hundred dollars

4042
02:34:11,429 --> 02:34:08,960
and you want to raise a million you're

4043
02:34:12,630 --> 02:34:11,439
going to have to reach a very very high

4044
02:34:14,469 --> 02:34:12,640
threshold

4045
02:34:15,910 --> 02:34:14,479
to get to that point

4046
02:34:18,309 --> 02:34:15,920
and

4047
02:34:19,670 --> 02:34:18,319
in order to do that in order to do that

4048
02:34:22,309 --> 02:34:19,680
you're going to have to provide some

4049
02:34:23,190 --> 02:34:22,319
more information this is really general

4050
02:34:25,830 --> 02:34:23,200
and

4051
02:34:27,270 --> 02:34:25,840
it's not there i have to ask you this

4052
02:34:29,110 --> 02:34:27,280
information it should have been there

4053
02:34:31,190 --> 02:34:29,120
already if you understand

4054
02:34:32,710 --> 02:34:31,200
now no i do i do understand what you're

4055
02:34:34,469 --> 02:34:32,720
saying i think it's a good point and we

4056
02:34:36,550 --> 02:34:34,479
can we can put something together and

4057
02:34:37,830 --> 02:34:36,560
make it available so

4058
02:34:38,710 --> 02:34:37,840
again

4059
02:34:40,469 --> 02:34:38,720
you know

4060
02:34:43,030 --> 02:34:40,479
we there was a debate

4061
02:34:46,150 --> 02:34:43,040
in launching a you know a crowdfunding

4062
02:34:47,670 --> 02:34:46,160
campaign what degree of specificity what

4063
02:34:50,070 --> 02:34:47,680
kind of detail

4064
02:34:51,830 --> 02:34:50,080
would people is consumable you know the

4065
02:34:53,510 --> 02:34:51,840
the general rule of marketing is you

4066
02:34:55,670 --> 02:34:53,520
don't typically want to bombard people

4067
02:34:57,590 --> 02:34:55,680
with data necessarily when a teaspoon it

4068
02:35:00,389 --> 02:34:57,600
and and one of the key messages if you

4069
02:35:02,309 --> 02:35:00,399
go to the page is i left my my email

4070
02:35:04,550 --> 02:35:02,319
address my contact information and

4071
02:35:06,309 --> 02:35:04,560
welcome anybody who wanted to talk to me

4072
02:35:08,469 --> 02:35:06,319
had other questions or just wanted to

4073
02:35:10,230 --> 02:35:08,479
talk and reach out i'm available to

4074
02:35:11,190 --> 02:35:10,240
answer this question but we there was a

4075
02:35:14,389 --> 02:35:11,200
debate

4076
02:35:16,389 --> 02:35:14,399
as to too much data um you know

4077
02:35:18,870 --> 02:35:16,399
your message can get

4078
02:35:20,469 --> 02:35:18,880
buried um and and you know so we wanted

4079
02:35:22,070 --> 02:35:20,479
a teaspoon and give them just enough

4080
02:35:24,469 --> 02:35:22,080
information to kind of

4081
02:35:27,030 --> 02:35:24,479
get a sense but you're you make a valid

4082
02:35:29,670 --> 02:35:27,040
point i guess if people are curious

4083
02:35:31,750 --> 02:35:29,680
about about that and i've looked at a

4084
02:35:34,230 --> 02:35:31,760
number of different

4085
02:35:36,309 --> 02:35:34,240
similar campaigns and tried to study

4086
02:35:37,670 --> 02:35:36,319
that and kind of get a sense for you

4087
02:35:38,790 --> 02:35:37,680
know what kind of information was made

4088
02:35:41,110 --> 02:35:38,800
available

4089
02:35:42,550 --> 02:35:41,120
and uh that that's kind of how we got

4090
02:35:44,710 --> 02:35:42,560
here so i'm not opposed to what you're

4091
02:35:46,070 --> 02:35:44,720
suggesting i think it's a valid point

4092
02:35:48,309 --> 02:35:46,080
and it's something that

4093
02:35:49,830 --> 02:35:48,319
we'll address here in the near term and

4094
02:35:52,550 --> 02:35:49,840
and you know hopefully that does help

4095
02:35:54,710 --> 02:35:52,560
people to get a better understanding and

4096
02:35:57,750 --> 02:35:54,720
you know prove the

4097
02:36:00,630 --> 02:35:57,760
response going forward so i i get it i

4098
02:36:03,030 --> 02:36:00,640
agree makes sense we'll do it

4099
02:36:05,270 --> 02:36:03,040
okay i will look forward to seeing it we

4100
02:36:07,270 --> 02:36:05,280
have not dealt much with your personal

4101
02:36:10,550 --> 02:36:07,280
experiences because frankly we wanted to

4102
02:36:11,990 --> 02:36:10,560
focus more on what got you to this point

4103
02:36:13,750 --> 02:36:12,000
what you hope to accomplish with

4104
02:36:15,990 --> 02:36:13,760
anonymous uprising

4105
02:36:19,190 --> 02:36:16,000
so certainly we hope to see more

4106
02:36:21,270 --> 02:36:19,200
developments but remember too that every

4107
02:36:22,550 --> 02:36:21,280
day that you have a campaign at gofundme

4108
02:36:25,030 --> 02:36:22,560
where you're not providing enough

4109
02:36:26,870 --> 02:36:25,040
information potential donors are going

4110
02:36:28,389 --> 02:36:26,880
to be turned off and they'll look

4111
02:36:30,389 --> 02:36:28,399
elsewhere they'll look to the people who

4112
02:36:33,110 --> 02:36:30,399
maybe need to raise money for an

4113
02:36:35,510 --> 02:36:33,120
operation or have some other emergency

4114
02:36:38,469 --> 02:36:35,520
so that's another issue to consider and

4115
02:36:40,309 --> 02:36:38,479
i'm not an expert on gofundme campaigns

4116
02:36:42,710 --> 02:36:40,319
but i've done a little bit of it

4117
02:36:45,190 --> 02:36:42,720
and i can see where the obstacles might

4118
02:36:47,750 --> 02:36:45,200
be so those of our listeners who want to

4119
02:36:49,830 --> 02:36:47,760
know more about what anonymous uprising

4120
02:36:50,710 --> 02:36:49,840
is is there any place they can check it

4121
02:36:53,110 --> 02:36:50,720
out

4122
02:36:55,349 --> 02:36:53,120
right now just our if they go you know

4123
02:36:57,590 --> 02:36:55,359
right now it's just our gofundme page

4124
02:36:59,590 --> 02:36:57,600
and as soon as we launch we're gonna

4125
02:37:01,429 --> 02:36:59,600
develop a website and uh you know

4126
02:37:03,270 --> 02:37:01,439
basically facilitate up to where we can

4127
02:37:04,630 --> 02:37:03,280
facilitate updates and communicate with

4128
02:37:06,550 --> 02:37:04,640
the public

4129
02:37:07,910 --> 02:37:06,560
but all the updates and information is

4130
02:37:09,830 --> 02:37:07,920
on our if you go to

4131
02:37:11,670 --> 02:37:09,840
anonymousuprising.com

4132
02:37:12,870 --> 02:37:11,680
it'll take you to our gofundme page

4133
02:37:15,110 --> 02:37:12,880
we're going to be putting some updates

4134
02:37:17,429 --> 02:37:15,120
here today or tomorrow adding

4135
02:37:19,990 --> 02:37:17,439
information so it's all there

4136
02:37:21,750 --> 02:37:20,000
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4137
02:37:24,150 --> 02:37:21,760
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4138
02:37:26,309 --> 02:37:24,160
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4139
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4140
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4141
02:37:32,870 --> 02:37:30,520
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4142
02:37:34,870 --> 02:37:32,880
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4143
02:37:36,710 --> 02:37:34,880
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4144
02:37:38,630 --> 02:37:36,720
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4145
02:37:41,349 --> 02:37:38,640
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4146
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4149
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chris and i will have a lot more to say

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about

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the anonymous uprising venture

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you also will get the ad-free version of

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removed we give you extra audio and

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video content from

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paul kimball's other side of truth

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there's a lot more there and we have a

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new special for the new year as we start

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2017.

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half years actually and we'll be here

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sean correa of anonymous uprising thank

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you for joining us on the powercast

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